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Redneck Intervals

Old 03-27-07, 08:31 PM
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Redneck Intervals

Did three sprint intervals on ride today. Got chased by three mean and fast dogs. I can actually sprint.
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Old 03-27-07, 08:43 PM
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ahaha. good one, yea i suppose those are intervals. I always love doing car chasing and seeing the surprised look on the car one lane over when I'm matching his 30 mph.
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Actually if you stop, turn around, and charge the dogs you can usually chase them. I prefer that kind of interval.
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Originally Posted by goldbam
ahaha. good one, yea i suppose those are intervals. I always love doing car chasing and seeing the surprised look on the car one lane over when I'm matching his 30 mph.
Racing scooters on campus is better. The two linebackers on one scooter tend to weigh the thing down a bit.
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We call them dog assisted sprints around here.
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Originally Posted by SlowSpinner
Did three sprint intervals on ride today. Got chased by three mean and fast dogs. I can actually sprint.
Any form of motivation you can use is good. Dogs help. Rednecks in pickups carrying shotguns help even more.
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Originally Posted by GatorFL
Racing scooters on campus is better. The two linebackers on one scooter tend to weigh the thing down a bit.
Yeah but you get two 300lbs boys on a scooter and it's only doing 20. Even **I** can outrun those things, you team-florida guys should be ashamed if that's the best you can do.



BTW, are you doing the gcc ride Saturday?
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We get plenty of impromptu sprints around here as well. Gotta love WV.
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Originally Posted by ravenmore
Actually if you stop, turn around, and charge the dogs you can usually chase them. I prefer that kind of interval.
Hahaha. Exactly. Anyone risking bodily harm and property damage to the nearby community should invest in a $5 leash if they care about their dog.

I had a little bull dog come in on me like a heat seeking missile once. Lots of loud vicious barking bearing down on me to which my friend Jim, who was riding just behind, retorted, "OH YEAH?!!!"

As I was getting into my sprint, there was a *KTHUMP*/yelp behind me and I looked back to see Jim coming out of what looked like a bunny hop, and the dog still spinning on the pavement.

Me: "Did you try to jump that monster?!"

Jim: "No, I just ran that beeotch down!"
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Just wondering how fast do you need to bike to outrun a dog and how long is the chase usually?
I have never been chased by dogs yet. I have passed many unleased dogs with their owners on residential roads and they never even bark at me.
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Originally Posted by supertj
Just wondering how fast do you need to bike to outrun a dog and how long is the chase usually?
I have never been chased by dogs yet. I have passed many unleased dogs with their owners on residential roads and they never even bark at me.
It's a completely different story out in the country when owners aren't around.

You don't have to be fast to outrun a dog, only smart. Well, I guess that only applies if you actually see the dog coming. Someone told us this little trick a while ago and I've found it pretty useful. If you see a dog coming, slow down as you are coming up on it. Once you get right in front of the dog or you see the dog make its move, put on a quick burst of speed. The more you slow down initially, the slower this burst of speed has to be (good news when you're feeling dead). The dogs get left behind and a lot of them give up. Most of the others are too far behind to make up for it if you're going 20 mph or so.
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Originally Posted by supertj
Just wondering how fast do you need to bike to outrun a dog and how long is the chase usually?
A few weekends ago I did my first Century in rural Georgia. I was coming up on a significant hill and a tiny dog comes up barking. I slowed down as he approached and then sped up. The dog kept pace at about 15 MPH for a while. I was impressed, and told the dog so. Eventually he went home.

As I reached the top of the hill I was spent. But to my right this HUGE dog (forget the name of the breed, the ones they use for police dogs) just starts running for me. He's galloping like a horse and barking. I was pretty worried that I might get seriously injured if he caught me. I took off pretty fast and luckily out ran him.
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Originally Posted by supertj
Just wondering how fast do you need to bike to outrun a dog and how long is the chase usually?
I have never been chased by dogs yet. I have passed many unleased dogs with their owners on residential roads and they never even bark at me.
Must be nice, around here it is not uncommon for the owners to sick their dogs on you. Due to this I have a few routes I longer ride.
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I call them dog bite intervals. They are highly effective. No slacking or you end up bloody.

I have only been chased by medium sized dogs. I find that I need to go at least 25 mph to go the same speed and closer to 30 mph to actually gain ground.
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Old, tired, medium sized dogs or bigger can run 32 mph or faster. Some much faster than that.

You can't out run one. Unless they start from far away, or you are on a big hill. They are fooling you into thinking you just barely got away, so you won't come back.

They are putting on a show (a very good show, it works very well) to get you out of their territory. The problem with the "show" is they might really bite you !
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Originally Posted by 2manybikes
Old, tired, medium sized dogs or bigger can run 32 mph or faster. Some much faster than that.

You can't out run one. Unless they start from far away, or you are on a big hill. They are fooling you into thinking you just barely got away, so you won't come back.

They are putting on a show (a very good show, it works very well) to get you out of their territory. The problem with the "show" is they might really bite you !

Fortunately they can only sprint for very short distances. You only need to say one step ahead for a few yards to escape them. Mace does slow them down a bit. And you are basically screwed if you are going up a hill.
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Old, tired, medium sized dogs or bigger can run 32 mph or faster. Some much faster than that.

You can't out run one.
Yeah, I don't know what most folks are thinking when they say they out ride one. Sounds like the dog just gave up when it's territory was no longer violated.

Our Weimaraners were "slow" and could do 35mph repeatedly. I could never measure an accurate max on the faster of the two. Greyhounds can get up to 42mph. The truth is that only pros and Cypress are out sprinting dogs.
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Originally Posted by slowandsteady
Fortunately they can only sprint for very short distances. You only need to say one step ahead for a few yards to escape them. Mace does slow them down a bit. And you are basically screwed if you are going up a hill.
It depends on the dog. Some can some can't. I agree partially. It also depends on how close they are when you start.
Part of the show of force is to convince you they can't keep up the speed, and that you sucessfull got away. That adds to the credibility of really being bitten when caught, even if they really won't do it. There's no way to know. All they typically want is for you to stay away. But you can't take the chance that it's just a bluff. It might not be.

Mace does not work when moving quickly, it blows backwards. I had an old dog reach 34 next to me down a big hill. I've paced dogs faster in the car.

The dog can accelerate to 34 on flat ground. Can you maintain 34.5 on the flat for a few seconds? Not me ! I would say the dog held that for about 5 seconds. Maybe less. But a dog that can go 34 can hold 20 mph long enough to be a problem. Even on a downhill 34.5 would have been a problem for me, I was running out of road approaching a stop sign. Fortunatly I got out of his territory.

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Yeah, I don't know what most folks are thinking when they say they out ride one. Sounds like the dog just gave up when it's territory was no longer violated.

Our Weimaraners were "slow" and could do 35mph repeatedly. I could never measure an accurate max on the faster of the two. Greyhounds can get up to 42mph. The truth is that only pros and Cypress are out sprinting dogs.

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We had a Rheinhemer? Sp that I would ride my 3 wheeler with him chasing pheasants and he could do 25+ for about 2 miles. You cannot outsprint that. Only out of shape, fat, porch dogs get winded easily.
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Originally Posted by 2manybikes
It depends on the dog. Some can some can't. I agree partially. It also depends on how close they are when you start.
Part of the show of force is to convince you they can't keep up the speed, and that you sucessfull got away. That adds to the credibility of really being bitten when caught, even if they really won't do it. There's no way to know. All they typically want is for you to stay away. But you can't take the chance that it's just a bluff. It might not be.

Mace does not work when moving quickly, it blows backwards. I had an old dog reach 34 next to me down a big hill. I've paced dogs faster in the car.

The dog can accelerate to 34 on flat ground. Can you maintain 34.5 on the flat for a few seconds? Not me ! I would say the dog held that for about 5 seconds. Maybe less. But a dog that can go 34 can hold 20 mph long enough to be a problem. Even on a downhill 34.5 would have been a problem for me, I was running out of road approaching a stop sign. Fortunatly I got out of his territory.




Well I am pathetically slow, and even I can outrun some dogs on the flat or downhill. I don't doubt that a large or fast dog such as the greyhound would have no trouble catching me. I also don't have a problem with the mace. I use the kind that is a thick stream and spray behind me towards the dog.

You only need to sprint at that fast speed for a few seconds. Dogs are not endurance atheletes by any stretch and most are just as sedentary as their owners. One quick burst and they are done.
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I'm just glad that the pooches around here are still doing their base chases and they haven't peaked yet.
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Originally Posted by LowCel
I'm just glad that the pooches around here are still doing their base chases and they haven't peaked yet.

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