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What are junk miles?

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Old 03-28-07, 11:23 AM
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i think it's all relative to one's goals and fitness level. example, my wife doesn't train all year long the way i do. so come spring when i'm doing intervals and she's just dusting off the cobwebs and wants me to take an easy run/walk with her, i consider that junk training since it does me no good for my fitness goals. but to her, an easy run/walk at that time of year certainly isn't junk.
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Does anyone ride a bike just for the sake of it anymore?

I removed my computer this past weekend and rode 30 miles or so without knowing my exact speed, cadence or distance. It was honestly very liberating.
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Old 03-28-07, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by smurf hunter
Does anyone ride a bike just for the sake of it anymore?
count me out. nope. no can do. boring. if i want to ride just for the sake of it ... i take my dog for an hour walk everyday instead.
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Old 03-28-07, 12:38 PM
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"Does anyone ride a bike just for the sake of it anymore? "

The nice thing about taking off the computer is that you would have room to mount one of these.

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Originally Posted by waterrockets
There's also the junk miles where you are just "riding hard" with no focus or purpose -- like if you train for average speed, but aren't actually at TT pace. One of these every week or two is fine for a tempo or terrain-driven effort ride, but if it's all you do, it's inefficient.
Yeah, a lot of beginners just go out and ride as hard as they can for a time-duration. They end up getting caught in this no-mans-land of training where they're really not pushing hard enough (sprints & intervals), AND they're not going far enough for true endurance. Wasted junk miles in the middle...
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I'd give anything for any miles at this point. Got my cast off two weeks ago and got clearance to resume training as long as my bike doesnt actually go anywhere. Four more weeks of staionary training and then I should be cleared to roll. Looking at weeks and weeks of training with no riding , even on the weekends is like confronting a monolith of drudgery. Found out what 8 weeks of inactivity will cost though. At least 10 pounds, a lot of aerobic capcity, and the inabillity to even warm up on my usual trainer setting without cracking.
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It looks like all of my miles are junk miles. Like they say, i guess one man's junk is another mans treasure. I've ridden a distance equal to the distance around the earth's equator in the last 3 + years. I gotsa lotsa junk in my trunk.
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Old 03-28-07, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Portis
It looks like all of my miles are junk miles. Like they say, i guess one man's junk is another mans treasure.
this thread got homer erotic pretty fast.
 
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My definition of junk miles are ones I have to ride to get to the base of a hill.
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this past Christmas my family went to sanibel island in florida for the week. my son and i rented a couple beach cruiser type bicycles. fixed gear with coaster brakes (had to learn coaster brakes all over again). every day we would ride 2 miles to a local highschool to play basketball and 2 miles back. we just putted along, taking it easy and not even breaking a sweat. i guess you could call those junk miles but the scenery was nice.


edit: now that i think about it i wouldn't call those junk miles. it was very enjoyable hanging with the boy, cruising on our bikes, jibing eachother, talking about random stuff. no, i definately wouldn't call those junk miles.

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^^^fixed gear not equal to coaster brakes...........you rode singlespeed with coaster brakes
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I think Joe Friel said somethinng in the Training Bible about junk miles. It was something about how you jump on your bike on a sunday (or whenever) just because you haven't met a weekly quota for mileage. Your heart isn't in it, you don't give it a real effort, and you're just waiting to get back home.
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Originally Posted by pedex
^^^fixed gear not equal to coaster brakes...........you rode singlespeed with coaster brakes
yeah, thats it, thats what i meant.
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one person's junk miles is someone else's base miles
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
But a lot of people put in too many miles at a moderate pace, at the cost of being able to go really hard when the plan calls for intensity, and being able to recover when the plan calls for easy.
Sounds like me to a T.
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Old 03-28-07, 08:34 PM
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I try not to think of a 6.5 mile ride with a bunch of stops and starts "junk", because otherwise I'd never commute by bike to work.

Edit: IT'S ALL GOOD!
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Any time on the bike is good.

My commute to work could be deemed 'junk miles' but I compete with my previous times and make it fun.
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No such things as junk miles. All miles are good miles.
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junk miles...

any miles I have to do ridin in ANY cage
even drivin farm implements is preferred
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Drake
Anyone who lives in a metropolitain area, and has to navigate through a series of stop lights before they can start their ride, has to endure "Junk Miles".
You can accelerate arbitrarily hard out of those lights...
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Someone told me junk miles are rides where you stay under 120 HR. I don't know how true that is.
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I think I learn something every minute I spend on a bike.
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as long as the crank is turning, it is a worthwhile ride. Even when not riding all that hard, my heart rate monitor tells me its maybe working at 130 % over resting rate. Junk miles. I have never experienced such.
Some of us just take life too seriously, along with our cycling, too.
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