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Old 03-28-07, 04:51 PM
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help me buy new brakes

I am considering the 07 Zero Gravity 0G-TI brake set, but they are a bit of a stretch on the checkbook. If I can get a 90% of the performance of those brakes at less than 90% of the cost from another brand, please bring it to my attention.

it would be nice if the brakes come in anodized black (or even red... oooh red....) finish.
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You can get 100% of the performance for far less money - they're great brakes, but they're hardly the "best" when it comes to stopping. What you won't get is the weight savings with less expensive models. You have to ask yourself if that weight savings is going to translate into the performance gain you are seeking. I own two pair, doubt there will be a third.

Record, Chorus, Dura Ace - all superior brakes. All less expensive.
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Get Record or D/A. ZeroG is about gram count, not braking performance.

Edit: What Terry said.
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Old 03-28-07, 05:05 PM
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Consider the 0G stainless version if you want to save a few dollars and gain a few grams over the Ti version.

What's wrong with your current brakeset, if anything at all? Are you upgrading for improved braking power or simply the bling factor?
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You could buy my set of brand new SRAM Force brakes. Still in the packaging! They can be had on eBay for $200, but I'll give them to you for $175...or cheaper if you really want them
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Old 03-28-07, 05:16 PM
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Mavic SSC..nuff said
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Originally Posted by Ramjm_2000
Mavic SSC..nuff said
more on the Mavics
http://www.bikemecca.com/mavicbrakes.html
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Old 03-28-07, 08:01 PM
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i'm a campy guy all the way but i have to say i recently got a set of their differential calipers (dual pivot front and single pivot rear) and am less than impressed with their stopping power. you can modulate braking very well as the rear brake seems to be more about slowing than stopping, but coming from dual pivots front and back, the lack of pure stopping power is very noticable.
while i'm not a big shimano fan overall, DA calipers are hard to beat.
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ultimately about the bling

it's ultimately about the bling...

I figure any of the brakes I'm looking at will provide sufficient stopping power, I'm not a competitive cyclist anyhow.

Nothing really wrong with my current brakes other than the fact that they are not black and I'd like to move them to my spare parts bike project.

I'll have to look at the mavic ssc. I'm also considering the cane creek SL, the fsa SLK, the tektro R750, and the TRP R950... all in black.





http://www.trpbrakes.com/r950.php

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those mavic brakes look like the POS tektro/generic brakes that came stock on my bike.

ZeroG are nice and light, but try them out before u buy them. The brake feel might be different. I for one hate a "heavy" spring like the ones on the tektro brakes. I dont know if the ZeroGs are like that or not
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cane creek's are a POS. took them off my pilot and replaced w/ shimano r600's.
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actually those fsa's look very much like the cervelo branded brake calipers, which i was actually really impressed with. i thought they were tektro's, but i think i was wrong.
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I've tryied the cervelos, not bad. the crane creeks are flexy, campy records have pretty good stopping power and feel solid. DA brakes have very light springs and they are powerful and grabby. I love my zero Gs, they feel solid with good modulation. on first contact, they slow the rims, pull on the levers a little more and feel the power.

I think those the don't think zero Gs are powerful don't understand modulation. on technical decents, modulation is the key to fast decents.
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Originally Posted by battery guy
those mavic brakes look like the POS tektro/generic brakes that came stock on my bike.
Your buttocks might look like Halle Berry's, but it don't make them so, and I'm not hittin them. That there's a similarity in looks is about as relevant as...well, it's not at all.

The Mavic's are superb brakes and a real value for weight and performance. And I own and race on Zero G's BTW. Lighter, but no comparison for stopping power (even with identical pads). Only downside: no eccentric adjuster (quick release), so if you're riding Shimano you need to allow for enough slack in the barrel adjuster to open the caliper up for a tire change.
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Zero Gravity = Zero Beauty. They are the ugliest most overpriced item you could put on your bike. If you want Bling, buy some of the new Record Skeleton brakes.


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I'll stick in a vote for the SRAM stuff... I've been super impressed with both sets of Rival brakes I have.
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Originally Posted by Ramjm_2000
Mavic SSC..nuff said

The Mavic SSC brakes are the greatest stopping power in caliper brakes you can put on a road bike, Period. They in fact can be too powerful depending on how you like your stopping.

They are black like you wanted, well designed, very smooth, and lighter than Dura-Ace or Record (but barely). Of course, they really aren't for Shimano riders since they don't use a release lever.
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I've tried them all and went back to SSCs. ZGs are super nice and light but are a PIA to adjust and setup and don't offer near the stoping power. The newer ZGs have supposedly solved some of the issues but still don't offer the same stopping power or ease of adjustibility. Oh yea, IMO they look hawt to boot!

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Originally Posted by gearmeout
I'll have to look at the mavic ssc. I'm also considering the cane creek SL, the fsa SLK, the tektro R750, and the TRP R950... all in black.
Stay far, far away from the Cane Creek 200SL's. Those are by far the worst brakes I have ever ridden. I would take 105 or Centaur over those pieces of crap any day!
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Originally Posted by teterider
The Mavic SSC brakes are the greatest stopping power in caliper brakes you can put on a road bike, Period. They in fact can be too powerful depending on how you like your stopping.

They are black like you wanted, well designed, very smooth, and lighter than Dura-Ace or Record (but barely). Of course, they really aren't for Shimano riders since they don't use a release lever.

I will join in on the SSC hit parade. I recently switched and I LOVE 'EM. The biggest test for me was my favorite 50 mph descent that has a "T" intersection and stop sign at the bottom. (Well, not the "exact" bottom, it's a little ways out after the descent flattens out, but still. I had many a "Oh shiite" moment coming up to that "T" in the past.)

So register me another vote for "looks great, works great." Now there IS the issue of no quick release for the Shimano folks such as myself, but I haven't been bothered by it as much as I thought I might.
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What do you want your brakes to do? Seriously. Most racers don't need to stop, they need to slow down and modulate their speed, and weight might matter more than anything. Cane Creek states they know their brakes aren't as good at stopping as others. They're going for light weight, perfect for racers The rest of us would actually like to stop. Sometimes in a hurry.
I recenty put a dura ace 7800 on my front and it amazes me. Braking from the hoods can stop me really quickly. Grabing the darn things can produce instant stopping.
So, y gotta ask yourself, do I feel like stopping or just slowing down
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Originally Posted by cccorlew
What do you want your brakes to do? Seriously. Most racers don't need to stop, they need to slow down and modulate their speed, and weight might matter more than anything. Cane Creek states they know their brakes aren't as good at stopping as others. They're going for light weight, perfect for racers The rest of us would actually like to stop. Sometimes in a hurry.
I recenty put a dura ace 7800 on my front and it amazes me. Braking from the hoods can stop me really quickly. Grabing the darn things can produce instant stopping.
So, y gotta ask yourself, do I feel like stopping or just slowing down
Just keep in mind if you also train on that bike that stopping is a necessity. I got extremely lucky when I found out that the Cane Creeks sucked because there was nothing coming in the opposite direction when I crossed the road in a downhill turn and almost went completely off the road and over a very nice hill. I'll stick with my 0G's.
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I have DA brakes and have been impressed by their stopping power. They were a drastic improvement over the stock brakes that came on my C'dale. I scored the DA's on ebay for a great price too. I want to say I paid less than $60 each.
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I think the biggest thing the SSCs have going for them are not the ability to stop on a dime (which they do), rather the excellent modulation and feel at the lever. My records were the only other stoppers that felt almost as good.
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First ride yesterday with SRAM (Rival), and I must say I was impressed with how powerful the brakes are and how good they felt. Now...just need to get the toe-in adjusted on the rear caliper, and I'll be all set.

I also like my Ultegra brakes as well....but if I were you, I'd give the SRAM stuff a serious look.
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