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Old 03-31-07, 01:08 AM
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Pros/cons of your Moots, please?
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Nobody has a Moots?
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moots are so hot right now.
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I have two, a Vamoots and a Psychlo.

Pros - good ride, good looks.
Cons - in that price range there are many options.

Bought 'em because I like the look. I'm happy with the ride. No complaints.
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How does if feel compared to steel? I heard it was "flexy"?
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I KNEW IT!

(Don't own a Moots, but they are nice bikes. I've seen a couple around the club and LBS rides.)
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I've heard that too, but only once from someone whose opinion I respected. Often "too flexy" is a part of a rant about "too expensive" as in "I'm too poor to own one."


I weigh about 160, and I don't flex it. The Psychlo is one stiff bike as far as I am concerned. The Vamoots is on the same order. The one person whom I would be willing to listen to, as in he owns one and has ridden 1000s of miles on it and has an ability to discern such things called it flexier compared to some of his other, stiffer bikes. Not a deal breaker, just noticeable.

Probably for you to decide, whatever flexiness there might be does not cause any problems for me. If you can ride one, go find a big hill and climb it in a high gear. I imagine you'd notice it right away.
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Oh, if this doesn't give it away, I'm not sure what will... you think Jon will find this thread??
yep, he beat her to it a week ago
he is also in search for a bike
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I love this moots

The cable housing going into the rear dérailleur has a nasty bend in it.
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Originally Posted by cuda2k
I KNEW IT!

(Don't own a Moots, but they are nice bikes. I've seen a couple around the club and LBS rides.)
Knew what, Cuda??!!?? I'm just asking like I was asking about the Torelli. And the Kona. And the Bianchi.

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Oh, if this doesn't give it away, I'm not sure what will... you think Jon will find this thread??
You know what, Skiahh? I thought me and you wuz buds....

And he has no access to a computer right now. (Shhhhhhhhhhhh)
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Originally Posted by terry b
I've heard that too, but only once from someone whose opinion I respected. Often "too flexy" is a part of a rant about "too expensive" as in "I'm too poor to own one."


I weigh about 160, and I don't flex it. The Psychlo is one stiff bike as far as I am concerned. The Vamoots is on the same order. The one person whom I would be willing to listen to, as in he owns one and has ridden 1000s of miles on it and has an ability to discern such things called it flexier compared to some of his other, stiffer bikes. Not a deal breaker, just noticeable.

Probably for you to decide, whatever flexiness there might be does not cause any problems for me. If you can ride one, go find a big hill and climb it in a high gear. I imagine you'd notice it right away.
Thank you for your imput.

The reason I ask is because I have a bulging disk in my back that I have to be careful about. I currently ride FS mtn. I went to ride a Specialized Dolce Elite and because of the harshness, it really was vibrating through my bones as if I was being electrified. Some say it was because the person had the tires pumped higher than I am used to and the fact that the road I was on was filled with cracks and potholes. Plus the fact that it was my first time ever on a road bike.
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Moots builds a truly fine bicycle. They reek with craftsmanship and their ride is sublime. It's my first choice in a Ti bike.
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Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind
Thank you for your imput.

The reason I ask is because I have a bulging disk in my back that I have to be careful about. I currently ride FS mtn. I went to ride a Specialized Dolce Elite and because of the harshness, it really was vibrating through my bones as if I was being electrified. Some say it was because the person had the tires pumped higher than I am used to and the fact that the road I was on was filled with cracks and potholes. Plus the fact that it was my first time ever on a road bike.

Every road bike will feel harsh if you're used to riding only FS MTB's... I think you're more of a candidate for a full carbon fiber bike than a Ti bike (if vibrations bother you).
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moots are so nice. i've only seen one on a group ride. i don't own one.
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Originally Posted by mayukawa
Every road bike will feel harsh if you're used to riding only FS MTB's... I think you're more of a candidate for a full carbon fiber bike than a Ti bike (if vibrations bother you).
So Ti won't divert the vibration so much? I have this thing about carbon and damage......I must have seen too many pics of it when it was broken. But then again it's usually carbon on mtbs.
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Originally Posted by bigskymacadam
moots are so nice. i've only seen one on a group ride. i don't own one.

What is nice.....?

I know the welds are nice and clean but to me the look of nekkid metal is boring. I wish it was anodized purple....Oooooooo that would be nice.
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Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind
So Ti won't divert the vibration so much? I have this thing about carbon and damage......I must have seen too many pics of it when it was broken. But then again it's usually carbon on mtbs.
Ride characteristics have more to do with frame design. There are tons of bone jarring stiff carbon frames an even super stiff riding ti bikes. I suspect that carbon frames will be even more varied than ti based on the multitude of layups/weaves etc...just go a test ride what you can and make your decision based on fact vs. recommendations from us talking heads. Oh yea...you can get to painted any color you would like
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The frame is question will have slightly longer seat stays, longer head tube and an ever-so-slight angled TT (not too visible to the eye) for the more upright effect.

Bending over too much and vibration is the problem on the disk. Jumping on a FS mtn bike while sitting up puts the pressure evenly on it.

Thank you everyone for your replies so far~
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90-110psi in your tires will turn a Moots into a pillow if that's what you're after.

I run my Psychlo at 50 psi (cross bike) on 32 tires and that combination is the smoothest thing I own. Bigger tires and lower pressure heals all wounds.

And don't think that carbon is a magic solution - a couple of the CF bikes I own are the stiffest things I ride. When it comes to frames and material, there is no magic combination. It's all about design.

Longer stays can help those with back problems as can a more upright position (longer head tube.) Personally, I find Moots a pretty nice ride. Perhaps it could work for you too. You might also want to see how big a tire you can put on it.
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Here is a list of things I was thinking about. Remember. I never had a road bike before and only did research here. Plus my nephew helped me out a bit in choosing the parts. Well....a lot. What do you think?

Reynolds Ouzo Pro Carb Steerer
Headset IRD Techno Glide
Shimano 105 Groupo 10 speed 3x
Hub Shimano 105 5600 Front 32
Hub Shimano 105 5600 Rear 32
Rims Mavic Open Pro 32 hole
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RIM STRIPS!!!! Velox
Handlebar Salsa Short and Shallow
Stem Ritchey Pro 90mmx73
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Seatpost Ritchey Pro 27.2
Saddle WTB Speed V
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Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind
So Ti won't divert the vibration so much? I have this thing about carbon and damage......I must have seen too many pics of it when it was broken. But then again it's usually carbon on mtbs.

Ti is a "soft" metal, but is very strong, so it can be made to be flexy (w/o compromising structural integrity) to help absorb vibration; it can be made to absorb vibrations better than steel or aluminum, but from my experience most carbon fiber designs will absorb low amplitude vibrations better. Some call that composite ride a "dead" feeling ride, as opposed to a "live" ride from the metal alloy frames. Carbon fiber is a pretty strong material when designed properly...of course it's a bit more sensitive to impact damage than Ti.
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Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind
Thank you for your imput.

The reason I ask is because I have a bulging disk in my back that I have to be careful about. I currently ride FS mtn. I went to ride a Specialized Dolce Elite and because of the harshness, it really was vibrating through my bones as if I was being electrified. Some say it was because the person had the tires pumped higher than I am used to and the fact that the road I was on was filled with cracks and potholes. Plus the fact that it was my first time ever on a road bike.
Designed like a 60s-era road bike, our Strada Bianca (“white road” in Italian) is intended for fatter 25-to-35mm tires. Fast on smooth pavement but relaxed-yet-tough when the road turns to trail, cobbles, gravel, or dirt. Wearing fenders – even carrying a light load - this bike does it all.
This is my favorite bike right now. I think the TI frame is made by MOOTS and sold under the Hampsten - as in Andy Hampsten - brand. It can fit tires up to 32mm so if you're feeling tight you could ride with wider tires and less PSI to make for a smoother ride.

Note that the geometry only looks tight because of the 35mm tires.
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I'd take it to a pankcake brefas, and maybe even call it the next day.
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