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OMG! Plastic is lighter than Carbon!

Old 04-11-07, 05:33 AM
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sounds good, I will be posting something later today when I have time
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Originally Posted by Walleye
hee hee hee you said 'bone'
All my posts are "laced" with sexual innuendo.

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Originally Posted by asmallsol
sounds good, I will be posting something later today when I have time
Look forward to it.
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Originally Posted by biker7
Ok...sorry, I got a bit side tracked due to VT to CA's inane additions to this thread. A number of things. My sense is...please clear this up for me...you are an academic. We both share engineering as our backgrounds. You either are in school or you teach. Both are great btw and I somewhat miss the sanctity of academia. I live in the world of product development. In other words, I apply what I learned in engineering school. What you wrote, again with respect, is simply quoted chapter and verse out of any engineering text taught in technical universities and rudimentary to those that have at least an undergraduate degree. What I did was attempt to explain to the lay community here, why Aluminum which is so radically different in material and mechanical properties can have a similar performance envelope to steel in the context of bicycles. What you did and again with respect was simply make pedantic references… distinguishing tensile from yield strength for example... and what academics many times do missing the point. I could dissect each of your points...like the breadth of elastic zone for example with non-ductile ceramic, but a semantical discussion does not really serve any purpose here in particular...lol..recognizing it is your comfort zone none the less. If my hunch is correct and you are either a student or a teacher or do research, then I challenge you to come forward with a real life example like I did and why. Perhaps compare ceramic and Ti or Ti and CF for bicycle design. Choose any materials you deem relevant. You can even use what I wrote as a template i.e. technically discuss the relationship of tensile/yield strength, density and modulus of elasticity. Or perhaps expand the discussion to fracture resistance of ceramic or dent resistance of aluminum when thinning out wall section with such a low modulus of elasticity and yield strength. Maybe even talk about why Aluminum tube bikes have thinner walls then steel with greater cross section with 3 X’s the volume of material but with less weight. You don't have to get into moment of inertia formulas for tubing cross-section. A scientifically based general discussion is more appropriate here. You asked in a subsequent thread if our technical discussion is done? Not if you don't want it to be. But come forward with a "bonefide functional comparison" of material properties, i.e. a manifestation of what you study in school and I believe that would reinvigorate further dialog relative to respective merits of each material and why.
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OMG, that's like trying to read the Borg Cube




George I'm sure there is good information in there, but I can't begin to tackle that this early in the morning

Seriously, try breaking that up with spaces every now and then...
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Originally Posted by ViperZ
OMG, that's like trying to read the Borg Cube




George I'm sure there is good information in there, but I can't begin to tackle that this early in the morning

Seriously, try breaking that up with spaces every now and then...
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Originally Posted by ViperZ
OMG, that's like trying to read the Borg Cube




George I'm sure there is good information in there, but I can't begin to tackle that this early in the morning

Seriously, try breaking that up with spaces every now and then...
Sorry bra but even if I broke it up for ya, you couldn't tackle it.
But thanks for the laugh.
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Originally Posted by biker7
Sorry bra but even if I broke it up for ya, you couldn't tackle it.
But thanks for the laugh.
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Originally Posted by ViperZ
If you think so
Just teasing you back. You guys ask for a lot. An interesting dynamic is how each of evaluate posts. If you have a technical bias, generally you are less concerned with grammar and syntax. Conversely, if you have a technical deficit, that is the prism you look through. Technical cats find this tedious. In other words, syntax is purely a necessary evil but not the underlying basis for conveying thought.
To be gramatical and technical is just too much to ask.

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Originally Posted by biker7
Just teasing you back. You guys ask for a lot. An interesting dynamic is how each of evaluate posts. If you have a technical bias, generally you are less concerned with grammar and syntax. Conversely, if you have a technical deficit, that is the prism you look through. Technical cats find this tedious. In other words, syntax is purely a necessary evil but not the underlying basis for conveying thought.
To be gramatically and technical is just too much to ask.

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Originally Posted by biker7
Sorry bra
George
is that suppose to be another one of your sexual innuendo?
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Originally Posted by ViperZ
NP, Do what you like, I'm just trying to help a brother out
But Viper as a mod, you understand that really isn't helping. Even though you maybe responding in jest.
If you really want to help and not deride, then contribute. Get in the game. Stick your neck out and be subject to other's comments as limited or insightful as they may be. That's how you grow bra.
I hate to bring up VT to CA but in many ways he is a metaphor for what you just did and why it creates such contempt on all message boards. No aspersions...just assertions...it almost rhymes.
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Originally Posted by blonduathlongrl
is that suppose to be another one of your sexual innuendo?
Not any more then your new avatar which I thoroughly enjoy.

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Originally Posted by biker7
But Viper as a mod, you understand that really isn't helping. ...
ViperZ is a mod? Looks like he is still the $25 little red star (as significant as that is of course ) - they just played a little joke on us on 4/1 when everyone went blue star for a day.
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Originally Posted by blonduathlongrl
is that suppose to be another one of your sexual innuendo?
Hey Karen,
Speaking of sexual innuendo, I just love this video. To use your native language word double entrendre...the reference "break the leash" is very clever...haha.
Have a look if you haven't already seen it:

http://s26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...nhavebikes.flv
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P.S. Would you ever do that?
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Originally Posted by biker7
But Viper as a mod, you understand that really isn't helping. Even though you maybe responding in jest.
If you really want to help and not deride, then contribute. Get in the game. Stick your neck out and be subject to other's comments as limited or insightful as they may be. That's how you grow bra.
I hate to bring up VT to CA but in many ways he is a metaphor for what you just did and why it creates such contempt on all message boards. No aspersions...just assertions...it almost rhymes.
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I'm not a mod, and I have no real opinion on this issue, other than to learn. For clarity, your posts are hard to read, so much so I just pass over them. I'm trying to help you in getting your point across to others that may feel as I do... We all want to grow, "bra"

I was trying to be light hearted about it, so you don't have to turn this into a session on the couch for me.


Sorry if I offended you in anyway.
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Originally Posted by biker7
Hey Karen,
Speaking of sexual innuendo, I just love this video. To use your native language word double entrendre...the reference "break the leash" is very clever...haha.
Have a look if you haven't already seen it:

http://s26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...nhavebikes.flv
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P.S. Would you ever do that?
classy.
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Originally Posted by biker7
Hey Karen,
Speaking of sexual innuendo, I just love this video. To use your native language word double entrendre...the reference "break the leash" is very clever...haha.
Have a look if you haven't already seen it:

http://s26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...nhavebikes.flv
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P.S. Would you ever do that?
speechless.
Maybe you odd to ask your wife if she would ever do that. Or maybe she does allready, oh wait, Im talking to someone who admits in his sig that he still have to pay for woman.
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Originally Posted by blonduathlongrl
speechless.
Maybe you odd to ask your wife if she would ever do that. Or maybe she does allready,
oh wait, Im talking to someone who admits in his sig that he still have to pay for woman.
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Originally Posted by ViperZ
I'm not a mod, and I have no real opinion on this issue, other than to learn. For clarity, your posts are hard to read, so much so I just pass over them. I'm trying to help you in getting your point across to others that may feel as I do... We all want to grow, "bra"

I was trying to be light hearted about it, so you don't have to turn this into a session on the couch for me.


Sorry if I offended you in anyway.
I would have to respect what you wrote to be offended. Your willfulness to help was back handed. You do see that right? I put a bit of scholarship out there. You admit you have no opinion on the issue and therefore nothing to contribute and because of that you elect to criticize style versus substance. No couch session, only a measured response.
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Originally Posted by blonduathlongrl
speechless.
Maybe you odd to ask your wife if she would ever do that. Or maybe she does allready, oh wait, Im talking to someone who admits in his sig that he still have to pay for woman.
Maybe I odd to. Pay for women? This I will attribute to your second language. The quote is "spend" not pay for. A clear distinction. Ask your husband if he has ever spent money on you. I would ask my wife but she would laugh...something I tried to get you to do.
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Originally Posted by biker7
Maybe I odd to. Pay for women? This I will attribute to your second language. The quote is "spend" not pay for. A clear distinction. Ask your husband if he has ever spent money on you. I would ask my wife but she would laugh...something I tried to get you to do.
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Just wasnt very classy, any woman know the only thing worth flashing for are Pinarellos and cervelos.

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Originally Posted by biker7
I would have to respect what you wrote to be offended. Your willfulness to help was back handed. You do see that right? I put a bit of scholarship out there. You admit you have no opinion on the issue and therefore nothing to contribute and because of that you elect to criticize style versus substance. No couch session, only a measured response.
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Originally Posted by blonduathlongrl
Just wasnt very classy, any woman know the only thing worth flashing for are Pinarellos and cervelos.
I apologize you took any offense.
Cheers,
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P.S. I won't ask your opinion about Imus either...lol.
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Originally Posted by biker7
Maybe I odd to. Pay for women? This I will attribute to your second language. The quote is "spend" not pay for. A clear distinction. Ask your husband if he has ever spent money on you. I would ask my wife but she would laugh...something I tried to get you to do.
George
"lol"

Originally Posted by biker7
Just teasing you back. You guys ask for a lot. An interesting dynamic is how each of evaluate posts. If you have a technical bias, generally you are less concerned with grammar and syntax. Conversely, if you have a technical deficit, that is the prism you look through. Technical cats find this tedious. In other words, syntax is purely a necessary evil but not the underlying basis for conveying thought.
To be gramatical and technical is just too much to ask.

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Originally Posted by biker7
I apologize you took any offense.
Cheers,
George
P.S. I won't ask your opinion about Imus either...lol.
you better not...."lol"
would just be one more excuse for you to find something else to argue about "lol"
you seem to be plenty busy in here! have fun!
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