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Secret to Putting On Tight Tires?

Old 04-11-07, 11:51 AM
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Secret to Putting On Tight Tires?

I got a set of new Williams System 50 carbon wheels last night (see www.williamscycling.com), along with a set of Vittoria Open Pro tires. Despite stretching and pulling for a half hour (along with a lot of swearing), I was unable to get the tire over the rim. I broke down and tried to use a plastic tire lever, being careful not to damage my new carbon rim. Of course -- you guessed it -- I pinched the tube. AAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHH! Since the last time I resorted to levers, I punctured 4 tubes, I gave up this time and put on a set of cheaper tires that don't feel as sweet as the Open Pros.

Soooo, is there any good secret out there for installing a tight tire?
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Old 04-11-07, 11:56 AM
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Tyre levers and baby oil - works for my tight rim
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http://www.velonews.com/tech/report/...s/11418.0.html
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my secret is using tires that aren't tight
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I don't know if this is any help to you but I have a wheelset that's all way been tough to get tires on and I just bought a pair of VITTORIA RUBINO PROs and the Vittoria's practically fell on these wheels. Don't know if all Vittoria's are like that but I was pleasantly surprised.
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Try a Kool Stop Tire Bead Jack
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Originally Posted by jimbud
I don't know if this is any help to you but I have a wheelset that's all way been tough to get tires on and I just bought a pair of VITTORIA RUBINO PROs and the Vittoria's practically fell on these wheels. Don't know if all Vittoria's are like that but I was pleasantly surprised.

I had the same experience with Rubino Pro's. Super-easy to fit. And a damn good tire, too.
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Old 04-11-07, 12:16 PM
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Warm them up in the dryer before putting them on.
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Schwalbe makes a fluid that lets a tire just slip on. Works wonders.
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Put the folding tire on the tire as much as you can as possible by hand - leave overnight to stretch. Usually you can then get the tire on with a little effort.

Last resort - just use a tire lever (ensuring not to pinch your tube).
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Blood from busted up knuckles seems to help
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Give 'em a stretch like a rubber band before you put 'em on. Then when it's seated most of the way around (both sides of the tire), start at the end opposite the "lip" and stretch the tire away from you like you're kneading it until you get to the lip. I've been able to get any tire on this way without even using my thumbs.
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I guess you guys never get flats. Kind of difficult to warm the tire in the dryer 20 miles out.

Why is using a tire lever a last resort? I never have any issues using tire levers to get a tire on. I lightly inflate the tube first to make sure it doesn't pinch.
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YOU ALL ROCK!!!! Thanks so much!
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Liquid (dishwashing) soap on rim and tire bead.
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Originally Posted by ekimeno
Tyre levers and baby oil - works for my tight rim
great way to ruin a new tire, the oil will degrade the rubber.

Use a tool like "the Quick stick", it cannot pinch. Use baby powder on the tube and bead, and if necessary, soapy water on the bead. Once dry, the soap will wash away and not hurt the rubber or the carbon.

Baby powder will also help on the road.

 
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If you have a style of tire lever like the basic Performance ones (green), turn the lever over from how you would hold one if taking a tire off. Use this to 'flip' the tire onto the rim, almost like a reverse process of getting the tire off. Hard to describe, but works every time.
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steer clear of kenda's in general. we're talkin park extra long steel shop tire levers.
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Originally Posted by jimbud
I don't know if this is any help to you but I have a wheelset that's all way been tough to get tires on and I just bought a pair of VITTORIA RUBINO PROs and the Vittoria's practically fell on these wheels. Don't know if all Vittoria's are like that but I was pleasantly surprised.
Yeah, I had the same experience. I started to put them on and thought, "are these even going to work?" But when I got both beads on, they seemed as tight as normal. I dont know how they do it.
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As others have posted, pre-stretch, let sit in truck of hot car a few hours (or in warm oven), powder both tubes and tire beads, and if you have to use a lever try a steel core plastic lever like the Soma steel core levers. Good luck.
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I always use tire levers and have never pinched a tube. I thought tire levers were the norm.
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Originally Posted by ekimeno
Tyre levers and baby oil - works for my tight rim
don't forget the bourbon! struggle with tire, drink bourbon......struggle some more...drink some more. Eventually you don't care if it takes an hour.
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They're only supposed to go on after you roll the skin off of your thumbs. Use bandaids on the digits you use on stubborn tires. I like the turning of the tire lever method as above.
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Originally Posted by ekimeno
Tyre levers and baby oil - works for my tight rim
What kind of rim are you talking about here? I like to use KY or Astroglide Meself...
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Originally Posted by JOEPIPPAS
What kind of rim are you talking about here? I like to use KY or Astroglide Meself...

Wow...TMI.
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