DrPete 

So it looks like I might need a new handlebar after this little crash I had, and I'm looking at the Deda Newtons. They have an "Anatomic" bend similar to the FSA I have now, and an "Italian" bend, also called the "Shallow" bend. I thought I remembered reading somewhere that the Italian bend is actually a little more comfortable when using Campy levers, especially in the drops.

Any experiences? Recommendations? Thanks.

pcates

i don't use campy but the one reason i like the 'anatomic' bend is for sprinting in the drops, i find it more comfortable than the traditional bend.

AnthonyG

I'm a fan of classic curve handlebars and the first thing I noticed was that with classic curve bars you can get your hands right up into the curve near the levers which reduces the reach and another important thing is that classic curve bars can be setup with the drop section parallel or close to parallel with the ground while still having the tops fairly flat as well which is quite comfortable in my view.

You can adjust your hand positions with classic curve bars where as with ergo's its one position only which you like or you don't.

I have small weak hands with a birth abnormality and ergo handlebars are just imposible for me to use properly in the drops but I can use classic curve bars just fine. Big hands seem to like ergo's better but I have spoken to stronger, larger guys using the Deda classic curve bars who felt that they were a little quirky at first but after a few rides they realy like them and have no intention to go back.

Regards, Anthony

El Diablo Rojo

My personal preference with the Campy shifters was with the anatomical bend Deda Newtons. However this is purely subjective. As much as I liked the Newtons I actually like my Ritchey WSC Logics even more.

onkey

classic bars for feel and more importantly looks. some ergo bars look like deer antlers.

i've recently switched to classic bars on 8 of my bikes.

the ritchey carbon classics are pretty sweet btw....

EdZ

Yup!

onkey

also, with the classic bar, your hand fits in there nicely and feels secure.

def. a good thing when you have to reach up to get that thumb shifter.

onkey

well put

shawneebiker

I have expensive carbon bars from both Zipp and Bontrager. I prefer my Deda Newton Shallow bars to them all. IMO they are the most comfortable bars (in the drops) and my Campy levers seem to be positioned perfectly on them. I have no troubles reaching the full lever not just the tips. (Unlike the Zipps, and I have big hands) The grip of the levers while in the drops seems perfectly natural.

The only minor down side to the shallow bars is the bend is sharp, and with big hands they aren't the most comfy when in the drops when pulling the lever. However, the easy access to the lever when in this position cancels out the less than perfect fit. I ride a lot with my hands on the low part of the drops and find it to be comfortable and efficient.

Be careful with the reach as some bars may have 70-100 mm of reach. I prefer the shorter reach of 80 mm the Deda's have. You may have to adjust your stem accordingly.

Get em' I know you'll like em!

El Diablo Rojo

Reach is the reason I switched from the Deda's to the Ritchey's. I was able to lose another 5mm spacer from my stack hight and keep the same reach as I had with my Deda's.

Surferbruce

bastard.....

transplant

https://www.cyclingnews.com/fitness/?...6/letters08-07

see: Pro bars/stems and bruised wrists

VT to CA

The latest trend seems to be short and shallow classic bends... I can't say enough good stuff about this design direction.

The Newtons are nice for sure- if you'd like to save a little weight I'd suggest the (carbon) FSA SL-K compact... don't go for the K-Force compact- it's more expensive, but they are exactly the same bar, with exactly the same weight... but while the K-Force has a traditional carbon finish, the SL-K has a multi-directional carbon finish... which will probably go better with your bike, as you ride Campy...

DrPete 

I'm still in the anti-carbon camp, though...

That cyclingnews article (thanks, transplant) seemed to speak pretty scathingly about the Deda anatomic design, but then said the shallow drops might not be good for wide palms, which I have, and that the deep drop makes it hard to reach the levers in the drops, which I wanted to avoid.

Maybe I'll just end up with some FSA Energy bars. The FSA anatomic design has served me reasonably well... I just can't decide.

531Aussie

the Chocolade Jacques pros like classics with their Ergo levers

https://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...aixRaceStart29

nitropowered

Vote for Deda Newtons.

DrPete 

Which of the 3 kinds of Deda Newtons are you voting for?

StupidlyBrave 

I read "energy bars" and then realized that I was confused.

No carbon, eh? I think if you can limit exposure to extreme temeratures, such as 95F, ;-) you could get away with carbon... I accidentally stumbled on some FSA K-Force bars on clearance HERE. (limited sizes)

My first exposure to the "ergo bend" bars was recent, and I'm still getting used to them (these have campy), but I may prefer my old-school bars (these are on a bike with downtube shifters and are slightly narrower).

DrPete 

^^ It's more an issue of crashability. As I was reminded today, bars are frequently whacked around in crashes and I don't want to shell out that much cash to replace CF bars in the event of a crash.

hmai18

Ritchey WCS Classic (alloy) drop/reach 135mm/82mm
Deda Newton Shallow drop/reach 135mm/80mm

The Ritcheys, however, can usually be found much cheaper than the Newtons. They can also be had in 31.8 or 26 clamp, depending on what you're already using for a stem.

I use the Ritchey WCS Classic (deep) bars with 145mm/82mm drop/reach because the curve is much more gradual and suits the shape of Shimano STI levers better. They're no longer listed on the Ritchey site, but many vendors still carry them.

superdex

(FWIW) FSA K Wings (alloy) on one bike; Forte carbon bars on the other, and I like the ergo bends better. But then again, I'm not in the drops all that often. So, um, yeah. I'm not much help. Did you go down?

DrPete 

Short answer: yes.

Long answer: https://www.bikeforums.net/33-road-bike-racing/290493-carl-dolan-3-4-race-convenient-when-doctor-lands-you.html

AnthonyG

I think that the article is saying that there are pluses and minuses to any option which is true. The guy I was talking to specificaly about the Deda shallow curve bars did say that he found them a bit tight when in the drops but ultimately he likes them a lot.

Regards, Anthony

caloso

The last set of bars I've bought are the Ritchey WCS Classic shallow bars. They'll also be my next bar purchase.

PaMTBRider

Thanks for the link to the Cyclingnews article. I currently ride Deda Newton Deep drop with campy shifters and love the smooth transition from bar to brake hood. I have a bike on order and decided to try the Ritchey classic for a slightly shorter reach. I have Deda anatomic bars on our tandem and will replace them in the near future with either the Ritcheys or Deda non-anatomic.