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familiarity breeds contempt...

Old 05-02-07, 09:06 AM
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familiarity breeds contempt...

I never usally post threads, instead I lurk and read a ton, but today is an exception:

I was almost killed 20 min ago.

I was riding back to my apartment, one block from home, when a car shot out from a parking space and almost hit me head on. We both stopped--my front wheel was >1' from the bumper. She was not a full car length out of the space into the right lane...that is how quick it happened.

I believe it was an AVOIDABLE [edit: avoidable formerly read as "no fault"--which is clearly the wrong phrase to use here] situation because I was riding the wrong way down a one way street. I live on this street, I drive on this street and I know full well the tendency is to look for oncomming cars BEHIND YOU before pulling out, not for cheeky cyclists in front of you. That being said, the driver should look more patiently and carefully because I could have been one of the many children that play all over the place in my neighborhood...and she did, although a bit later than I feel comfortable with. That, afterall, is why I am alive--had she been a fraction more distracted or familiar with what she was doing she would have run me down

Both of us are guilty of being too familiar with our own habbits--luckily I am still alive and in one peice to recognize this.

I believe that she was pretty close to being just as shaken as I was...because the car did not move for quite some time...I like to believe she was pondering our fates, just as I was.

BE CAREFUL...and don't do stupid things (like ride the wrong way down an one way) and take your time when driving a vehicle.

I know many other cyclist here have had similar experiences, but we ride on the road and every now and again we need to be reminded of our fallibility to ensure our longevity.

And what was the statistic about accidents happening near home?

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Old 05-02-07, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by slim_77
I believe it was a "no fault" situation because I was riding the wrong way down a one way street.

Actually, it was predominantly your fault. The driver had no reason to anticipate a vehicle coming at the speed of a bike from that direction.

You're a vehicle. Obey the rules of the road applicable to vehicles, or suffer the consequences.

Fortunately this was no harm no foul, but you should use this as a learning opportunity.
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I am not sure about the title of this thread?

At any rate, glad to hear you are still alive and kicking.

She was perhaps a little careless but I think you got away with one there.
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Old 05-02-07, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Actually, it was predominantly your fault. The driver had no reason to anticipate a vehicle coming at the speed of a bike from that direction.

You're a vehicle. Obey the rules of the road applicable to vehicles, or suffer the consequences.

Fortunately this was no harm no foul, but you should use this as a learning opportunity.

you are right..."no harm no foul" is the proper description, but I also already acknowledged my culpabilty.

thanks for the pedantry.
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Originally Posted by slim_77
thanks for the pedantry.
No problem. I'm good at pedantry. What I get paid for.
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Originally Posted by Stallionforce
I am not sure about the title of this thread?

At any rate, glad to hear you are still alive and kicking.

She was perhaps a little careless but I think you got away with one there.
yeah, I really did.

this happened about 150 feet from my apartment, I was heading down the wrong way because it was more direct to the house and I only ride it for a block...nevertheless, not a good thing to do, but I have done it, like, 10,000 times...familarity witih the situation makes me think that nothing bad will happen because I think know the situation so well...which is obviously stupid in cases like this.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
No problem. I'm good at pedantry. What I get paid for.
ha!...me too!
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Not comtempt...complacency. And it isn't no fault, it was your fault.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
No problem. I'm good at pedantry. What I get paid for.

Then you are aware that you ended that last sentence with a preposition.
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I know, I know...

Is this a rant against the driver? NO. Is this a "poor slim_77 almost got hurt" post? NO.

This is a "JUST BE CAREFUL and SMART ON THE ROAD" post. Did that tone not come through?

I am going to edit the OP to remove distracting and poorly phrased terms...
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It sounded as though you placed equal blame on the driver, which is clearly not fair. But that's just my .02
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Originally Posted by slowandsteady
Not comtempt...complacency.
Complacency is more direct, but the adage uses contempt...contempt for the behavior one should exhibit. Contempt more accurately describes my former attitude toward what rules and good sense I chose not to follow.
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Originally Posted by slim_77
I know, I know...

Is this a rant against the driver? NO. Is this a "poor slim_77 almost got hurt" post? NO.

This is a "JUST BE CAREFUL and SMART ON THE ROAD" post. Did that tone not come through?

I am going to edit the OP to remove distracting and poorly phrased terms...

Communication is a funny thing...when you use the wrong words people may confuse what you were trying to say with what you actually said.
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Originally Posted by slowandsteady
Communication is a funny thing...when you use the wrong words people may confuse what you were trying to say with what you actually said.
true, except for what other words one use to convey a greater message that readers may choose to devalue so to emphasize an already admtted mistake in word choice.
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I think for some "better" responses, this would fit in better over in A/S
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good job on posting this. it really bugs me when i see fellow cyclists not obeying traffic laws. gives cyclists a bad rap. hopefully some idiots out there will take this as a good lesson to be learned from.

and while im on this topic. i hate cyclists who run red lights.
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I'll admit that I almost chimed in with a "it was all your fault".

My commute involves a one-block stretch downtown where it's much easier, and honestly safer for me to go down the sidewalk (cycling on the sidewalk is illegal downtown) than it is to try to merge onto and get to the opposite side of a busy 4 lane road.

Anyway, I've become so accustomed to it that I got really irritated at this couple this morning that wasn't paying enough attention and really got in my way. It wasn't until I read your post that it dawned on me.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
No problem. I'm good at pedantry. What I get paid for.
you're a pendantologist? good money in that?
 
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Originally Posted by DocRay
you're a pendantologist? good money in that?

And what do you charge for bunion surgery?
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As to the red light issue: I run them, after slowing or stopping and checking cross traffic. If I didn't I would have to stop and unclip and wait at any of forty or fifty lights (depending on what happens to be red) just on the outbound leg of a ride that I regularly do on weekday evenings, and wait one to two minutes at the red lights. The lights are long, and in most instances they don't have a heavy stream of crossing cars. It may be a technical violation of the traffic laws, but it's fully justified in my mind.
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Monkey
Then you are aware that you ended that last sentence with a preposition.
What I get paid for, jerk.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
What I get paid for, jerk.
...I think a "so did you" would have been nicer.
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yes. You are considered a vehicle. So, cops would find you in the wrong. But , you could have been a pedestarian. She still might have hit whatever object was there. So, who is in the wrong/ ? In a strip mall in California a motorist once knocked me down. The guy made a right hand turn into a parking area. two way traffic. I was on my side. He headed in on the left side of the drive. going about 2 mph, he only caused me to loose my balance, as I sort of sawing his front left front wheel about to run over my head. he did not look for oncoming traffic. Parking lots are the worse. I also, could have as easily been a pedestarian.
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Originally Posted by slim_77
...I think a "so did you" would have been nicer.
Just paraphrasing the punchline to an old joke; no offense intended.
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Dude, it is totally your fault. You were riding the WRONG WAY on the street! You are a vehicle when you are on the road, act like one.
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