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Retractable dog leash bike crash

Old 05-02-07, 07:58 PM
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Retractable dog leash bike crash

My friend told me about his training friend who was riding in Central Park. He was down on his aerobars, going about 25+ mph, when he came upon a dog walker who had let out the retractable dog leash about 15ft out into the road. The rider came across, caught the leash, went end over end and dislocated his shoulder and was badly bruised. Hes done for the season and perhaps for the entire year - All this, just before the half ironman next weekend in Florida. In the whole process, the pulling of the leash by the cyclist also injured the dog. He did say that the woman apologized. Not sure of the bike condition.

I told him to tell his friend to take legal action. Isnt there a limit on the length of dog leashes? Just pisses me off on the carelessness of the dog walker. I feel sorry for the dude, since he was at his peak to race in the half in a week....all gone in an instant.

Just check online and seems there are 16ft and 26ft retractable dog leashes. 26ft?? Is this the lazy mans version??
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I almost got nailed by a retractable leash on Monday. A lady was walking her dog on a sidewalk that has a good 5 foot stretch of grass between it and the road. I was a good 2 feet into the roadway and when the dog made a break for me it got within a foot of me before the owner hit the lock button. I yelled at the dog and when I looked back the lady gestured at me like I did something wrong....
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I don't know of any laws about this around here (Philly), but I encountered a similar situation on an MUP nearby. A woman on one side of the path had let her dog go to the other side, and the leash was laying on the asphalt. I made a HUGE point of stopping right there and waiting- in silence, but with a certain look to let her know that I was annoyed. She said "It's OK- you can go by- he won't chase you or anything." I just said "Famous last words. Please get your leash off the road." She did, and I went by. I have no idea if she got the point, but after 30mi, I was in no humor to debate this with her.
I hate those leashes- no control, and you don't even feel like you're walking your dog. I'll stick with a standard 3' leash, thank you.
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I Hate Those F'n Things!!!!!!!! Aaaaaaaaarrrrrggggghhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is a local gravel off road path in Philly's wissahickon park where the path itself is about 2 car lanes wide (Forbidden drive) and runs about 5 or 6 miles. Soooo many people use those retractable leashes there and you can't tell if the dog is even on a leash until you're right up on them... no matter what speed you're going. There are leash laws that usually limit them to 6ft max. Most people with those reatractable leashes let their dogs just walk off and they don't pay attention to them or their surroundings.

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Dog Leashes

Wow, I can't believe you were such a badass racer/ironman triathlete on your aerobar in Central Park and actually came upon a pedestrian. Let alone a pedestrian leading a dog. Maybe the issue isn't length of dog leash, but lack of balls. Get out of the freaking park. Do your training wheels lack brakes?
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What the hell was that guy doing going 25 mph on a MUP in aero position with pedestrians around? He sounds like a jackass and he probably got what he had coming.
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Retractable leash is not the problem, the dog owner is the problem for not paying attention to whats going on around them, I have a dog and a retractable leash and never ran into any problem with anyone.
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Originally Posted by Zinn-X
What the hell was that guy doing going 25 mph on a MUP in aero position with pedestrians around? He sounds like a jackass and he probably got what he had coming.
Originally Posted by isuffer
My friend told me about his training friend who was riding in Central Park. He was down on his aerobars, going about 25+ mph, when he came upon a dog walker who had let out the retractable dog leash about 15ft out into the road. The rider came across, caught the leash, went end over end and dislocated his shoulder and was badly bruised. . .
Perhaps you should read the OP more carefully before you end up sounding like a jackass.
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Originally Posted by Flywolf
Retractable leash is not the problem, the dog owner is the problem for not paying attention to whats going on around them, I have a dog and a retractable leash and never ran into any problem with anyone.
+1. Some people walk around with their head in the clouds (or up somewhere else).
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Originally Posted by Sprocket Man
Perhaps you should read the OP more carefully before you end up sounding like a jackass.
perhaps. probably too late to not look like a jackass now tho...
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Among other rules that no one except I seem to know about, is only 6 foot long leashes "on" the bike paths in my state, except for the bridges there is lots of grass on each side for walking a dog off the pavement.

Not one person has a clue, not one. Not cyclists. Plenty of extendable leashes going across the path. I saw one woman who had one all across a two lane street and could not hear a bicycle (me).

I have a 26 foot retractable leash for the dog. It's great for someone who does not have a fenced in yard so the dog can run 50 feet in your yard. It's great in open fields where there is a leash law. Every town around here has a leash law, all the ones the bike path goes through. No one has a clue.
I let the dog go swimming and I stay on shore with 26 footer. A deserted beach is great.

If human beings could never make errors they would be OK........You can lock the button so it will not extend. But people are human.

I ride thousands of miles on the places where I walk the dog, and I am always thinking of a cyclist coming, just like a loaded gun barrel pointing down the path. I expect a 25 mph bike to come down the path silently all the time. Even so, someone talked to me, I became distracted, and I thought the leash was locked and it was not. I was in a parking lot away from the bike path. The dog almost made it to the paved bike path. It's just not possible to never make a mistake.

The only way on this path is to use a 6 foot or less leash. And walk ten feet from the pavment. Or what ever accomlishes the same thing for your local conditions. That's still not a 100% guarantee of no dogs in the way, they can get loose. But I think it is the best one can do.
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I know my opinions are about to get destroyed, but I am very new to road cycling and I hate whiny bikers. I hate bikers that ride on sidewalks and I hate bikers that think they can run a red light while I sit there in my truck.

Please forgive me, but I believe that cyclists are an option on the road and should watch out for cars and pedestrians. I truly love road and mountain biking, but I always am aware of my surroundings and don't expect others to look out for me. I just don't think you can blame a dog owner for walking their dog and it getting in your way. What happens when you runover something in your car? You are responsible. So be more careful and don't be super-bike dude. We all know you are hardcore just based on your spandex.
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Originally Posted by mikskibum
I just don't think you can blame a dog owner for walking their dog and it getting in your way.
It is the owners responsibility to control there dog. It is our responsibility to make sure the dogs owner knows we are there and to pass safely.
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25mph on an MUP is asking for trouble. Tell your friend he's lucky he's not worse off, and that being a moron isn't illegal so he's probably fine for now.
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Originally Posted by pgaulrapp
25mph on an MUP is asking for trouble. Tell your friend he's lucky he's not worse off, and that being a moron isn't illegal so he's probably fine for now.
He was riding on the road. The dog went about 15 feet into the road. ?????
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It's so funny how 3 people from nowhere near NYC and Central Park are all A$$uming that Central Park is considered a MUP. When in fact it is an actual road, where cars, trucks and taxi's drive for a good portion of the day/night. There is an inner circle that is a quasi-MUP. It is a dirt walking/riding path around the lake. The riding isn't for cyclists though, at least I don't believe they are allowed on that path.

The Roads throughout Central Park are all open to vehicular traffic except for set hours at night and weekends.

The comment by the new rider; Mikskibum obviously is a young rider who doesn't know vehicle laws in every state, let alone NY State. In NY and every state that I am aware of a bicycle is considered a moving vehicle. It is not legally allowed to ride on sidewalks. It is supposed to obey all traffic devices; these include lights and signs. Bicycles are supposed to ride on the shoulder, bike lane or right lane if the first two options don't exist. A bicycle rider has as much right to a lane of traffic as a car, truck, suv, motorcycle. Bicycle riders are legally supposed to also use hand signals just as a car is supposed to use hand signals when electrical signals are not working.

A dog in Central Park legally has to be leashed. Allowing a dog to run into the road even while leashed is the dog owners responsibility 100%.
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Originally Posted by spdrcr5
It's so funny how 3 people from nowhere near NYC and Central Park are all A$$uming that Central Park is considered a MUP. When in fact it is an actual road, where cars, trucks and taxi's drive for a good portion of the day/night. There is an inner circle that is a quasi-MUP. It is a dirt walking/riding path around the lake. The riding isn't for cyclists though, at least I don't believe they are allowed on that path.

The Roads throughout Central Park are all open to vehicular traffic except for set hours at night and weekends.

The comment by the new rider; Mikskibum obviously is a young rider who doesn't know vehicle laws in every state, let alone NY State. In NY and every state that I am aware of a bicycle is considered a moving vehicle. It is not legally allowed to ride on sidewalks. It is supposed to obey all traffic devices; these include lights and signs. Bicycles are supposed to ride on the shoulder, bike lane or right lane if the first two options don't exist. A bicycle rider has as much right to a lane of traffic as a car, truck, suv, motorcycle. Bicycle riders are legally supposed to also use hand signals just as a car is supposed to use hand signals when electrical signals are not working.

A dog in Central Park legally has to be leashed. Allowing a dog to run into the road even while leashed is the dog owners responsibility 100%.
I don't know for sure, but I have never heard of any town or city that does not have a leash law. There might be some??

In my state I have all the rights and responsibilities of a vehicle on the road, and a pedestrian when riding on the sidewalk, or even a crosswalk. There are a few other laws about riding while riding on the sidewalk.
It's legal. Not good, just legal. There are also places where it is illegal to ride on the sidewalk in this state too.
When riding my bike across a crosswalk I have some good pedestrian laws on my side to theoretically keep cars from being too close. "theoretically". There are other towns in other states where riding on the sidewalk is legal. It's a mixed bag.
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I bought a 6' leash for my dog and was uncomfortable with the extra distance it gave him compared to the 4'. I returned it and got a new 4' leash. How people think a 26' leash near a street is a good idea is beyond me.

Originally Posted by mikskibum
Please forgive me, but I believe that cyclists are an option on the road and should watch out for cars and pedestrians.
Cars are also an option. The way I see it, if I follow the law and the car follows the law, we'll probably be fine. I agree that I should watch out for everything because it will hurt me more if something happens, but that doesn't relieve the driver of fault if s/he breaks the law endangering others. It is impossible to prepare for any sudden movement, and if you think you can you're going to have a rude awakening some day.
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The injured rider should contact a lawyer....

Regulation regarding Dogs in NYC parks

Obey the Rules and Regulations

* Dogs must be on a leash (no more than six feet long) at all times, except in dog runs and designated off-leash areas at prescribed times.

* You must pick up after your dog and dispose of the waste in containers provided throughout the park.

* You must prevent your dog from chasing birds, squirrels, and other animals.
* Dogs are never allowed in playgrounds, zoos, swimming pools/facilities, bathing areas/beaches*, fountains, ballfields, or on basketball/ handball/tennis courts.

and more....

(i) Failure to Control Animals

Except as specified in 1-05(s)(3), no person owning or possessing any animal shall cause or allow such animal to be unleashed or out of control in any park, except as permitted by the Commissioner. Any such animal found at large may be seized and impounded. Properly licensed dogs and cats, restrained by a leash not exceeding six feet in length, may be brought into the park, except in no event shall dogs or other animals be allowed to enter any playground, zoo, bathing facilities, or other area prohibited by the Commissioner. Nothing in this subdivision (i) shall be construed to prohibit persons with disabilities from bringing seeing eye dogs, hearing ear dogs or other dogs trained to assist such persons into these areas. Nothing herein shall prohibit horses entering or being within a park as provided in 1-05 (q).

and for our out of town posters, some interesting reading on the many hazards we face here in NYC...

http://home2.nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/tr...ecyclecomp.pdf

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I'm confused....

I ride in an extremely large park area...the 3rd or 4th largest city park in the US, it has a resevoir, etc...there are a lot of walkers with dogs, all on leashes...but when I see a dog and a person a long way from each other in this park, especially when the dog and the person are on opposite sides of the road, I am slowing down.

I had to stop and explain how this was a problem for cars and riders to a person. Seriously. You know how, if you look long enough, through a process of elimination you can find the dumbest person in the world?
I met this person...

But if you spend all your time staring at your Power Tap....

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I'm confused....
But if you spend all your time staring at your Power Tap....
Right on target, always apply some good old common sense, regardless of what the law states, or what you expect of others!
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Originally Posted by roadwarrior
I'm confused....

I ride in an extremely large park area...the 3rd or 4th largest city park in the US, it has a resevoir, etc...there are a lot of walkers with dogs, all on leashes...but when I see a dog and a person a long way from each other in this park, especially when the dog and the person are on opposite sides of the road, I am slowing down.

I had to stop and explain how this was a problem for cars and riders to a person. Seriously. You know how, if you look long enough, through a process of elimination you can fund the dumbest person in the world?
I met this person...

But if you spend all your time staring at your Power Tap....
As I said above, the Central Park road that this rider was on was in fact a road. It is aproximately 2-3 car lanes wide in most places when you include painted shoulders, etc. There is then a jogger/rollerblader inner part of the roadway that bicycles are not allowed to ride in. On the other side of the jogger lanes is a large expanse of grass then the dirt trail. This dog owner would have to either have been walking their dog in the jogger path, or let out so much cable on their dog from the grass/curb area that there is no possible way for the cyclist to have seen any of this. The closest the bike rider could have possibly been to the curb where the dog owner should have been was at minimum 10-12 feet!

The image below shows a small section of Central Park and how the road is laid out. A shows the jogger part. B shows the road where the cyclists ride and C shows direction of travel. As you can see the road is quite a distance from where the dog should have been and if the leash was out well past 6 feet the rider never would have seen it.
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Sorry to hear about that bad deal.

My quick retractable leash story for you.....

On a section of MUP on my route last year, I saw a woman and her little dog on one of those things up ahead. I slowed way down and was ready to stop as I yellout on your left.

The woman proceeds to move to the right-hand side on the grass while the dog is on the left-hand side on the grass, with the leash making a nice little trip wire across the path.

She just stood there waiting, as if she didn't actually even realize what the heck was going on!

I stopped in front of it and she just muttered...'oh'...as she then crossed over to the dog's side.

Wow.
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^^ what a stupid move on the Lady's part, would she have done the same if a car were to pass between her and her dog.

On a MUP I usually ride slower specially during the weekends, its not very safe for fast riding, did you ever have a little kid on a small tricycle make a sudden U turn in front of you? Not good.
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Originally Posted by Hipcycler
Sorry to hear about that bad deal.

My quick retractable leash story for you.....

On a section of MUP on my route last year, I saw a woman and her little dog on one of those things up ahead. I slowed way down and was ready to stop as I yellout on your left.

The woman proceeds to move to the right-hand side on the grass while the dog is on the left-hand side on the grass, with the leash making a nice little trip wire across the path.

She just stood there waiting, as if she didn't actually even realize what the heck was going on!

I stopped in front of it and she just muttered...'oh'...as she then crossed over to the dog's side.

Wow.
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