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Questions about Soloist or Soloist Carbon ride quality.

Old 05-03-07, 08:31 AM
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Questions about Soloist or Soloist Carbon ride quality.

I'm considering picking up either a soloist or a soloist carbon as my next bike. I really could care less about weight so that isn't even a factor. I'm just interested in peoples perceptions of the ride quality. Obviously they are race bikes first and foremost. The have very short chaninstays, and I was curious if anyone here can describe the ride quality to other bikes they have ridden. I know ride quality varies greatly based on wheels and tires and air pressure, but I know alot of you out there have ridden alot of bikes. Just for reference I've owned a specialized allez pro which was very nice. It had great acceleration, but on rough roads it wasn't the most pleasant experience. I do miss how the bike just jumped when I touched the pedals. Conversley, I now own a Serotta Fierte Ti. It rides like no bike I've owned. It has long chainstays, rides amazing but lacks some of the snap I desire.

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Old 05-03-07, 08:47 AM
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Search titles for Soloist, you'll find plenty of threads on the bike.

FYI, I've heard lots of good about it.
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Old 05-03-07, 09:05 AM
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I have ridden both the Soloist Team (Which I Own) and a Cabon Soloist.

The Carbon Soloist is going to absorb the road better due to the carbon, however the Soloist Team is not a bad ride either. You feel more of the road which I like.

You can't go wrong with either bike, I wanted to save alittle money and due to this I choose the Team.
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Old 05-03-07, 09:35 AM
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I considered those bikes also and settled on the Cervelo R3. It is made to win races but take the punishment of uneven terrain (like the cobbles). It is fast, stiff and comfortable. It is also cheaper than the Soloist Carbon. Don't overlook this bike if you are considering Cervelos.
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Old 05-03-07, 09:41 AM
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I don't have a problem spending some coin for an amazing bike, but I actually want to use it for it intended purpose which is to race it. I hate when I see race bikes absolutely neutered being ridden around at 12 miles an hour with a stem that goes straight up in the air. Again, I'm not trying to sound arrogant, but most of us don't need the same frame the pros are riding. I certainly don't need it, but it is a nice luxury however. I also want to use it for time trials, and some triathlons. However, I can't afford to replace a whole bunch of frames. I'm leaning towards the team, and I may try to get it of ebay. If I crash it, at least I won't be in tears over being out 3200 bucks. Some say the team soloist rides great, some say it is very harsh. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

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Old 05-03-07, 09:43 AM
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If I could have afforded the Carbon soloist when I built my bike, I would have gotten an R3 ... I went with the soloist team and love it. I don't race, but I put a lot of miles on it (200+ a week). You feel the road, which I don't mind at all, and it handles very nicely, descends well, climbs well, etc. Good acceleration, very stiff (not as stiff as the carbon version of course). You can feel the power transfer quickly to the rear wheel - kind of like a 'get up and go' feeling. I originally got it with the idea that at somepoint I would use it as a part time TT bike, but since then my riding style has changed and probably won't be using it for that at all. At somepoint (like 5 years) I'll move to an R3.
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Old 05-03-07, 09:46 AM
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for me the difference in price wasn't justifiable. i have the team and an very happy with it. plenty stiff, light enough, more bike than i'll ever really need. plus, in a couple years when theres all kinds of new frames out i won't stress so much about swapping it.
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Old 05-03-07, 09:59 AM
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I just took ownership of the Team for 2 weeks. Great bike for the money. I actually enjoyed this bike more than my other road bike. Super fast, quick acceleration. Don't know too much about the carbon version. The carbon should be as good or even better than the Team.

If money is not object, get the carbon.
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Old 05-03-07, 10:33 AM
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I looked at the r3. It is cheaper and lighter, but I just can't get over how thin the those seatstays are and how light the bike is. I know all the testing data, and I say it win Paris-Roubaix the last two years, but in my head I just look at that bike and think it can't be durable. I know, I'm basically a moron. I honestly wished the bike weighed 200 grams more, but I'm a 190 lbs, and sub 1000 gram frames scare me. I wan't the bike to last a while. I'm sure the R3 is a great bike but I'm just drawn to the Soloist more. Like I said before, I may be a moron.
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Old 05-03-07, 10:55 AM
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I've ridden both Soloist bikes and much prefer the carbon. I own the Team because it was cheap and easy to find used. While the Team can feel harsh over some very bad roads, the usual feel has as much or more to do with tire pressure.

* Don't be afraid of the structural integrity of Cervélo frames. They're one of the few companies that stress test. There are 180 pound guys on the CSC team. I wouldn't worry at all about being 190 on a Cervelo. In fact, as a heavier rider you're doubtlessly safer on an R3 than you would be on any model from Litespeed, Orbea, Pinarello, Colnago and the many other brands that let their buyers do the stress testing or perform very poorly in stress tests.
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I read once where the seatstays on the R3 are there primarily to meet the current bike rules. The frame is so strong that you could cut them off (I won't be doing this on mine though) .
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I read that as well about the seatstays being basically for show, and by the look of the chainstays (which are gigantic) I believe it. I just can't get over how light bikes are getting. I know Cervelo had issues with the R2.5, and that scares me a little bit as well. Since you have a Cervelo, I was wondering how the bike handles with such short chainstays. 39.9 are the shortest ones I've ever seen. It seems like that would make the ride very harsh, but the bike will have a lot of snap.
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I owned the team and it was way too harsh for me, i then got a carbon Ridley. Now i am on an SLC-SL and there is no sweeter bike. If you afford the soloist and these 2 are the only option GO FOR IT.
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Old 05-03-07, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by swalburn
I've owned a specialized allez pro which was very nice. It had great acceleration, but on rough roads it wasn't the most pleasant experience. I do miss how the bike just jumped when I touched the pedals. .
I've only had my aluminium Soloist for a month, but I'd probably describe it just as you've described your Allez Pro. The Cervelo feels stiff, fast and responsive, is a little uncomfortable on rough roads, but not too bad. It also hanlde great.

You can soften a bike a lot by changing to a flexier fork; mine has a Columbus Carve (I bought the frame forkless), which is probably on the stiff side as far as full-carbon forks go. I also have stiff wheels on mine: a 32-spoke DTRR1.2 on the rear, and a 32-spoke RR1.1 on the front.

By the way, my 58cm frame weighs 1440g, totally bare, but with the derailleur hanger.

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Old 05-03-07, 12:27 PM
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I sold a Trek 2100 and bought the R3 this spring. It is a joy to ride. It took me awhile to get used to it - it is so efficient at transfering energy forward that you feel like you have to hold onto the bars when you hit the pedal or it could jerk right out from your grasp. Kind of like the feeling of driving a fast sports car that takes off with a minimal touch of the gas pedal..

The back roads that I ride on can get a little rough (older blacktop) and the R3 is very forgiving compared to the Trek. I swore that sometimes I would be close to breaking a tooth off on the Trek but the R3 is much more comfortable. A century ride on the R3 on rougher roads would be no problem at all. I haven't ridden alot of other nice bikes so I don't have much else to compare it with though. I do know that I have bought my last bike for a long time (my wife agrees) .
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