Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

cadence

Old 06-13-03, 06:38 AM
  #1  
msz
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: san diego
Posts: 23
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
cadence

How can you measure cadence? Is there a bike computer with distance, speed etc....I have never seen one. Thanks
msz is offline  
Old 06-13-03, 06:46 AM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 1,049
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Yes. Many computers come with cadence or it can be added. Sigma, comparatively low cost, is a good one. Cat Eye ASTRALE is another.
__________________
ljbike
ljbike is offline  
Old 06-13-03, 06:50 AM
  #3  
Spawn of Satan
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA
Posts: 765
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Cadence is the rpm (rotation per minute) of your crank arms. If you count how many times your crank arm turns in 15 seconds, then multiply it by four, you have your cadence.

A much easier way is to get a cylce computer with a cadence attachment. You attach a magnet to your crank arm and a detector to the down tube. This sends a signal to your computer and gives you a constant accurate read out.

Almost every cycle computer manufacturer makes a cadence model.
captsven is offline  
Old 06-13-03, 07:04 AM
  #4  
bac
Senior Member
 
bac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 7,481

Bikes: Too many to list!

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
If you have Shimano STI shifter/brake levers, you can get a Shimano Flightdeck computer that calculates a virtual cadence. I have one and like it a bunch. The buttons are integrated into the STI brake/shift levers. It also has a graphic gear position readout. Here's a link and a pic:

Shimano Flightdeck
bac is offline  
Old 06-13-03, 07:58 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: So Cal
Posts: 4,665

Bikes: 2012 Trek Madone 6.2

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Still can't get a wireless one,right?
shokhead is offline  
Old 06-13-03, 08:12 AM
  #6  
Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Canton, MI
Posts: 44
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Polar has a wireless cadence counter for its 510 and up series computers.

Important note though: stay away from power lines
Foxman is offline  
Old 06-13-03, 08:56 AM
  #7  
bac
Senior Member
 
bac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 7,481

Bikes: Too many to list!

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally posted by shokhead
Still can't get a wireless one,right?
The Flightdeck is available wireless. That's the one that I have.
bac is offline  
Old 06-13-03, 09:55 AM
  #8  
KCbagger
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 33
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I would go with a flight deck. I have one and love it. There is alot of talk about 'it is only virtual cadence', but you are either coasting or pedaling right? Another good point for it is that it shows on the screen your current gear selection.(no need to look down or back anymore) With the cadence displayed all the time for the current gear selection and speed, you know when to shift to another gear before you even start pedaling. (as after coasting down a hill)
sunsetnkc is offline  
Old 06-14-03, 08:13 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 54
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
the cateye astrale is available on sale for $19.95 at nashbar and supergo. good reliable computer with cadence. can't beat the value.
markevans999 is offline  
Old 06-15-03, 11:24 AM
  #10  
Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 45
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I just got the Astrale at Performance for that same $19.95. If you go down there to buy it, print out the ad on their web page or it'll run you $26. I had to print it out then take it down there...
Formtight is offline  
Old 06-15-03, 12:22 PM
  #11  
DEADBEEF
 
khuon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Catching his breath alongside a road near Seattle, WA USA
Posts: 12,234

Bikes: 1999 K2 OzM, 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Originally posted by bac
The Flightdeck is available wireless. That's the one that I have.
There might be some confusion about this. I have the wireless harness on my roadbike and the wired one for my MTB. The wireless harness for the MTB shifters is rather limited in compatibility to just the M510 (Deore) group. If you have any other group, you need to go wired. For roadbike groups, there's a much greater range of compatibility with the brifters. The same computer head will work with any of the harnesses be they wired or wireless.
__________________
1999 K2 OzM 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send." -- Jon Postel, RFC1122
khuon is offline  
Old 06-15-03, 12:29 PM
  #12  
DEADBEEF
 
khuon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Catching his breath alongside a road near Seattle, WA USA
Posts: 12,234

Bikes: 1999 K2 OzM, 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Originally posted by sunsetnkc
I would go with a flight deck. I have one and love it. There is alot of talk about 'it is only virtual cadence', but you are either coasting or pedaling right?
I initially thought that virtual cadence was silly but after a little more thinking, I realised that cadence means very little unless you're loading the pedals so virtual cadence is fine for 99% of what you'd want to know about cadence. If the computer were logging or doing average cadence then virtual cadence would throw off those numbers of course.

Originally posted by sunsetnkc
Another good point for it is that it shows on the screen your current gear selection.(no need to look down or back anymore) With the cadence displayed all the time for the current gear selection and speed, you know when to shift to another gear before you even start pedaling. (as after coasting down a hill)
While I like the digital optical gear display, this isn't a unique feature since MTB shifters have mechanical ones and you can now get inline mechanical displays for roadbike shifters too. I do however like the numerical tooth display on the 6501 (the 6500 showed gear ratio and cog-position numerically) but I would like it if it were to show gear development as well.
__________________
1999 K2 OzM 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send." -- Jon Postel, RFC1122
khuon is offline  
Old 06-15-03, 07:16 PM
  #13  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 21
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'd ask around before getting a polar 510 or higher. They work great at first, but then have reliablity problems.
Onewheelup is offline  
Old 06-17-03, 09:30 AM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 620
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I love my Astrale. The cadence is really nice to have(in my opinion). Only problem I have is every time I touch the stupid sensor thingie mounted on the chainstay it moves and I have to readjust it.
dragracer is offline  
Old 06-17-03, 10:43 AM
  #15  
DEADBEEF
 
khuon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Catching his breath alongside a road near Seattle, WA USA
Posts: 12,234

Bikes: 1999 K2 OzM, 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Originally posted by dragracer
I love my Astrale. The cadence is really nice to have(in my opinion). Only problem I have is every time I touch the stupid sensor thingie mounted on the chainstay it moves and I have to readjust it.
Don't you wish frame and fork manufacturers could work together with the biketronics industry to standardise on a set of mounting points and interface locations (like what's been done with other components already) so that you could buy a frame that would come with prepped sensor mount points and interfaces?
__________________
1999 K2 OzM 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send." -- Jon Postel, RFC1122
khuon is offline  
Old 06-17-03, 10:57 AM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 288
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I bought a Trek cyclometer. It has cadence.

I really like it, becuase it has triple read-outs. I can see my constant cadence, as well as my speed, then either have the regular time or trp time at the top.

This thing was under $40. It was a good deal. I looked at the flight deck, but would have been nearly $100 becuase you had to get the cyclometer, then all the hook ups for the flight deck.

Here is a link to the one like mine:
https://www.trekbikes.com/accessories...&category_id=8
msparks is offline  
Old 06-17-03, 11:45 AM
  #17  
Climbin' Fool
 
djpluv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 228

Bikes: 2004 Bianchi EV4 and a 2005 Trek 8000

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The only bad thing I have found with the Flight Deck is that is won't record the avg. cadence for the whole ride :-(
__________________
- You gotta be willing to lose if you wanna win -
djpluv is offline  
Old 06-17-03, 11:59 AM
  #18  
DEADBEEF
 
khuon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Catching his breath alongside a road near Seattle, WA USA
Posts: 12,234

Bikes: 1999 K2 OzM, 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Originally posted by djpluv
The only bad thing I have found with the Flight Deck is that is won't record the avg. cadence for the whole ride :-(
Well... because of how it actually calculates cadence (virtual cadence), I think an average cadence measurement would be fairly worthless. Also, I'm curious as to the actual value of average cadence. I suppose it'd be neat to see but I'm not so sure it's all that useful.
__________________
1999 K2 OzM 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send." -- Jon Postel, RFC1122
khuon is offline  
Old 06-17-03, 12:18 PM
  #19  
Climbin' Fool
 
djpluv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 228

Bikes: 2004 Bianchi EV4 and a 2005 Trek 8000

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'd like it more or less to make sure I pedaled within a particular range. i can figure it out in my head by looking down at the display every now and then. just something else to have, i guess ;-)
__________________
- You gotta be willing to lose if you wanna win -
djpluv is offline  
Old 06-17-03, 12:20 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 620
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally posted by khuon
........... you could buy a frame that would come with prepped sensor mount points and interfaces?
YES!! That would be SWEET!!
dragracer is offline  
Old 06-17-03, 12:55 PM
  #21  
Senior Member
 
k2bikerider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Atlanta (East Cobb) GA
Posts: 93

Bikes: 2017 Fuji Roubaix 1.2 LE

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I have a Polar 710 and agree with OneWheelup because I've been burning up alot of batteries, and when the sensor battery needs replacing , you need to remove it and replace the battery, and reattach, also when the 710 (or 510) needs a battery, you are supposed to send it back. I took the chance and replaced it myself, and it works fine. But this voids the warranty.
k2bikerider is offline  
Old 06-17-03, 04:27 PM
  #22  
Junior Member
 
oregonyankee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 12

Bikes: Trek 5500 & Trek 2200

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
If you really want to improve - speed, endurance - cadence is key. There are several good computers - the Specialized Pro was one of the best but it is hard to find now. Ciclosport makes the HAC and the Ciclosport 414 - both have cadence and altitude and gradient and power (Watts). The HAC also doubles as an HRM - the Posties have endorsed it for 2003.

"Ride cadence, speed will come" - advice given to me some time back and its' true. Find the right balance between effort (Watts) and cadence is essential.
oregonyankee is offline  
Old 06-17-03, 04:51 PM
  #23  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: South Jersey Shore
Posts: 8
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Nashbar has the Astrale on sale for $19.99. Although mine has worked just fine for the past three years, I bought one and put it away. Can't beat the price and whatever the new one will cost will be considerably more.
Scapin is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.