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Old 05-13-07, 08:46 PM
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My coach said something about knowing of a racer he was familiar with getting a $14,000 scholarship to Ohio State University through cycling during the race this Saturday. And lately I've been wondering whether or not I want to be doing bodywork until I retire, so I was wondering if anyone knew of any other colleges (maybe someplace in the South?) that offers cycling scholarships?
Right now I'm just in the stages of checking it out, but I might be getting serious about this stuff.
Apparently, the guy who got the scholarship wasn't all that great either.

I believe that to take advantage of being American, I'm going to get as much knowledge as I possibly can so I can excel in anything, because I hate being poor. Right now I've got $1.33 to my name, I'd have to close my bank account to get the last $25.
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i dont think many schools fund much for cycling clubs because it isnt NCAA
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Originally Posted by F = MA
i dont think many schools fund much for cycling clubs because it isnt NCAA
Indeed. I'm not saying you he was giving you a line but i'm going to venture to guess that there is more to the story if it happened at all.

As an aside, don't let money steer you away from college. Especially if you're over 24 because at that point the doors open up for you. Do what you want to do, take out loans if need be, work your butt off...it'll work out in the end.
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Lees McRae college in NC. I was offered a scholarship for $7500/semester there and turned it down.

Average tuition/semester? $18,000 (2001).
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You're far more likely to cash in on a scholarship if you can kick the sh1t outta the SAT or ACT.

Pick up a Princeton Review and start studying.
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$14K a year for Ohio State? It can't be that much. (I don't know the exact amount, but my entire family went there, so it's definitely not too expensive.

I think what viking1001 said is your best bet...
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Tuition at Ohio State

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I think a few IU frats have some for the Little 500, but you must be very good.
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I think a few IU frats have some for the Little 500, but you must be very good.
I was thinking the same thing (Indiana Univ.). At least they might offer a deal on housing.

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...And then you're living in a fraternity, perhaps for free. I doubt they cover your tuition.

Maybe I'm just too old, but I'd rather not live in a fraternity.
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Originally Posted by Cypress
Lees McRae college in NC. (2001).
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Originally Posted by ElJamoquio
...And then you're living in a fraternity, perhaps for free. I doubt they cover your tuition.

Maybe I'm just too old, but I'd rather not live in a fraternity.
I have lived in a fraternity house for 2 years and unfortunately they are not free. Although the fraternities where I go are alot diffrent then the big school ones, insurance, house up keep, dues, ect add up.

Why I say different, at some schools, the fraternity houses look like mansions, but on the inside are basically gutted, with almost no one living there. At bigger schools, most of the fraternities are HUGE with over 100 members, making any costs some what reasonable when split between all their members. However our school is smaller so numbers are lower (20-mid 30's) so the cost of just having a huge party house with rent and insurance just isn't an option, so people actually fill the houses. Since people actually live there, house upkeep is very good. For my house, we live in a 120 year old house that used to be own by a mine owner (I go to Michigan tech up in the UP) There is still some original stain glass windows, incredible wood work all over the house, and beautiful hard wood floors throughout. It really is an amazing house. It's 3 floors tall with 11 rooms able to house up to 19.

Anyways (little side tracking there), where ever you go, if you join a national fraternity, you'll have to pay national dues, social dues, and insurance (which can add up). Local fraternities maybe slightly cheaper dues since they won't have to pay nationals, but insurance can be insane because they don't have nationals (read lawyers) to back them up if something happens.

As for living in a fraternity, it depends on what the house mentality is, and your own personal self restraint. 95% of the time its like any bigger common living environment. There's going to be people hanging out in some room drinking or doing whatever, then other rooms there are people doing homework. The other 5% of the time (parties) you'll see some stuff that would make some cringe, but sometimes it becomes normal. You can participate or sit out, its up to the person. I have lived in house for 2 years now, and have made dean's lists twice. I would normally go to bed right around midnight, and wake up for my 8 ams religiously. Others move in the house and fail out/grades plumet because anytime anyone is drinking, they will join them, stop going to class, whatever. Personally, I love it. I do alot of studying on campus because it can be a little distracting at the house, and I do alot of studying period. I am on campus alot of time from 8am-11 at night with maybe a few hour break around dinner. When I go back the house, there's going to be 10 of some of my closest friends there that I can hang out/gain sanity, bull****, ect with. If I didn't live in the house I would probably come home to an empty apartment or something to that extent.
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I have lived in a fraternity house for 2 years and unfortunately they are not free. Although the fraternities where I go are alot diffrent then the big school ones, insurance, house up keep, dues, ect add up.
I was speaking of Indiana University, where someone claimed some frat's offered scholarships to 500 riders.
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+1 to Lees McRae college in NC. I just finished racing for MIT and from what I've heard on the collegiate circuit Lees McRae is the only school with scholarship money, and they roll like it too, custom painted trailer, sometimes a bus, they've got it good compared to most of college racers, packing 4 or 5 to a car and who knows how many to a hotel room.

Study for the ACT/SAT a much better bet.
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21
My coach said something about knowing of a racer he was familiar with getting a $14,000 scholarship to Ohio State University through cycling during the race this Saturday. And lately I've been wondering whether or not I want to be doing bodywork until I retire, so I was wondering if anyone knew of any other colleges (maybe someplace in the South?) that offers cycling scholarships?
Right now I'm just in the stages of checking it out, but I might be getting serious about this stuff.
Apparently, the guy who got the scholarship wasn't all that great either.

I believe that to take advantage of being American, I'm going to get as much knowledge as I possibly can so I can excel in anything, because I hate being poor. Right now I've got $1.33 to my name, I'd have to close my bank account to get the last $25.
If you have a decent HS average gpa and your poor,your in dude.Those low interest loans won.t be due till you graduate.Plan you loans a year in advance before attending,call the admissions office,they can help.
My 2 kids at OSU have notice a cycling team on campus,but I believe its club,not varsity,so whats up with this guy saying a "cycling scholarship".It might be a academic or financial needs grant.If college is only for the wealthy,we would be in a world of s---.
Are you part of the PDQ race team I see in the park?
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I'm currently looking into this because my school (colorado college) is considering making cycling a varsity sport.

There are less than half a dozen schools in the nation with varsity cycling programs. As far as I know, Lees Mcrae is the only one that hands out scholarships that amount to a substantial portion of tuition.

At my school there is one kid (and hopefully another next year) who lives nearby at the olympic training center and takes some classes here for cheap while racing for us on USA cycling's tab. But it appears that they will be doing away with the resident athlete program pretty soon.

So while cycling scholarships do exist, they are the remotest of possibilities. Lees McRae is the only real school that does it, and they are also the only varsity cycling program anywhere close to the south.

+1 to working on grades and SAT's man. I know that's how I'm getting through school on the cheap.
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A few things:

1) Based on how bad OSU was this year, they are not getting a good return for their money if in fact they are handing out money to kids to ride bikes. Nice dudes, but none are that fast. They did a pretty miserable TTT and I don't think any of them finished the A's crit at regionals.

2) There are a couple of schools that offer scholarships for cycling. Marian College, Lindsay Wilson College, Lees-McRae, etc. When Marian brought their full A's team to the races this year and last, they put the hurt on the field in the MWCCC.

3) I don't think the guys at IU get free housing in the fraternity by being on their Little 5 team. At least none of my friends that race it do. These aren't scrubs either, one of them was on a top 3 team last year.

If you want to race in college, don't do it to get a scholarship. Get a good education at a great school, and then race your bike. Not to knock any of the schools I listed, but you might be better served in the long run by selecting a school for it's academics first, and cycling team second. There are plenty of great schools out there with very good cycling teams, and only a handful of decent scholarship schools with very good to great teams.
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Look at velonews.com. Info on recently completed college nationals. Get a complete list of competing colleges as your baseline. Contact re cycling teams and financial support. Or, just go to the best school you can get into and afford and which is in an area with lots of cycling. Unlikely you will get financial aid. Best you can hope for is support for your cycling.

Re money from OSU - right... Schools adjust tuition for all kinds of reasons. It's a negotiation. Negotiate a discount and tell your friends it was a cycling scholarship.

If you want to be a real "American", do what all the the other smart real Americans (i.e., first generation imigrants) do, and go to a community college for the first two years, and get an academic scholarship for the rest of your education at State U. Then go to grad school at the best place you can get into and take out loans to pay for it. That will get you the lowest cost, best education. You may even find time to ride.
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Take this year's RR results with a grain of salt, though. A HUGE amount of the field flatted out. Apparently during the tornadoes of last week one of the roads on the course flooded and is unrideable, so they had to reroute the course through a pretty bad road with lots of loose gravel, which caused both pinch flats and cuts to people's tires. A friend of mine flatted twice in the neutral roll out, and then after rejoining he flatted again on the 2nd lap, having used both of his spare wheels. Super strong kid on the bike, too, just caught a bad break. Went that way for a lot of people.
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A few years ago, Midwestern State in Wichita Falls, TX (home of the Hotter than Hell 100), was putting money into cycling. I'm not sure if they are offering scholarships now, but I do not believe it is terribly expensive anyway.
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You have to realize that a lot of school's have cycling clubs that can get pretty active with racing and are funded decently by the school.
So if you do well on tests/grades you can get a good scholarship to the school and be able to take part in the sport anyway. Don't rule out schools just because they don't offer athletic scholarships for that one thing.
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
Take this year's RR results with a grain of salt, though. A HUGE amount of the field flatted out. Apparently during the tornadoes of last week one of the roads on the course flooded and is unrideable, so they had to reroute the course through a pretty bad road with lots of loose gravel, which caused both pinch flats and cuts to people's tires. A friend of mine flatted twice in the neutral roll out, and then after rejoining he flatted again on the 2nd lap, having used both of his spare wheels. Super strong kid on the bike, too, just caught a bad break. Went that way for a lot of people.
Agreed. I just meant the schools listed, regardless of finish place, may be a good place to start. According to the Velonews article that gravel stretch pretty much destroyed the integrity of the race. Sorry about your friend.
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A bit of further advice. As noted by others, very few schools offer cycling scholarships. Your best bet is to have an attractive overall package, including GPA and SAT / ACT scores. However, it is important to note that many private schools (and, to an extent, smaller state schools), definitely consider other activities in deciding admissions and financial assistance. At schools that may not offer direct cycling scholarships, but have strong, well funded programs, you may gain some benefit from contacting the coach, giving him/her your race resume, and seeing if a note can be put in your admissions and financial aid files. This is certainly not a guarantee, and will not happen at all colleges, but it may enhance your prospects. The earlier advice to focus on academic credentials is the best advice, but do not be shy in contacting admissions officers, financial aid officers, and cycling coaches in the process.

And per my earlier message, I noticed Midwestern won the mens and womens road race titles this past weekend.
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Originally Posted by ericcox
And per my earlier message, I noticed Midwestern won the mens and womens road race titles this past weekend.
Alex Boyd (RR), and his girlfriend Natalie Klemko (not making this up) won the Crit.

That was a tough road race course. More flats that neutral support could handle. Men's race started with over 120 riders and finished only 81, most due to flats, and a couple crashes. We went out and rode the course a week prior and there were some fun hills and descents that were cut out due to 10 feet of water over the road in the troughs. My girlfriend flatted out on lap 2 as well.

Getting to the original thread, I know our team, like many in our conference, are poorly funded. A scholarship for cycling is one of those elusive things, like a baby pigeon..no one has ever seen one. We've heard that maybe teams like Fort Lewis might be one of them as they supposedly don't field many NCAA teams but I believe that they are just better funded but no scholarships, or if there are, they aren't much. We get $1500 from the University. Next year we'll get $1800...for the year. That doesn't cover travel expenses through the whole season (which also includes MTB and Cyclocross). Most teams rely on sponsorship to cover costs. Obviously some teams are better sponsored than others but a lot of kids pay out of pocket for things such as team kits, etc, and own and maintain their own equipment, or we'll use sponsorship to offset the costs of team kits at the very least. We try to save on travel expenses by staying with families and riders of the host team when we travel to away races. And a coach? We tried extremely hard to get the University to fund us to hire a coach this year, so they gave us $300 more...that didn't quite cut it. They obviously don't realize how much a coach costs these days, though we gave them all the info. Student loans fund a lot of us through the season unfortunately but we have to remember the primary reason we are here...to get an education first...cycling has to come second.

BTW, interesting tidbit about the D1 Omnium National Champion. As Mark Hardman was getting his stars and stripes jersey for his second consecutive omnium championship, someone was busy stealing his bike. Ridiculous.
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Alex Boyd (RR), and his girlfriend Natalie Klemko (not making this up) won the Crit.
For some reason I had it in my head they won both roadraces, not the rr and crit. Now if they get hitched and have kids, look out.

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Getting to the original thread, I know our team, like many in our conference, are poorly funded. (snip)
This is far more common than well funded program, unfortunately. I raced briefly for UVA when I was in grad school, and the budget was primarily for entry fees and over night stays. We had a really good coach who did it because she loves cycling. She is also a USCF official and race organizer. For the OP, however, if you are choosing a school in part because of cycling, do searches for the teams, contact team members and, where available the coach. I work at a private university, and the strangest things sometimes get taken into account to decide between otherwise equal applicants. The result may not be labelled as cycling, but being a tremendous athlete in a non-mainstream sport sometimes help. For example, my school has a varsity woman's rifle team that is really quite good.
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