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Old 06-01-07, 11:18 AM
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Why do I do these things? :) PowerTap Sl

So I just finished building my fiance a new XC race bike last week. So I got the unofficial nod to get something new as well I just ordered a PowerTap SL wheel, built on a DT Swis R1.1 hub. 32 DT comp spokes... pretty standard build.

I'm pretty excited about it... hopefully I can get some good use from it. My time for training has been very constrained as of late (wedding in less than a month now!). So, I'm hoping I can use it to be a little more targeted and make better use of the time I do have.

Now the temptation is to take it with me on our cycling honeymoon trip to Italy. Just to see how pathetic I really am on the climbs
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Got that wheel a little while ago. Want to rebuild it already - definitely lighter spokes (came with 2.0 straight) and probably a different rim - some kind of raceable rim. The wheel is unfortunately heavy and worse it has a heavy rim and spokes. But the hub is very cool

PT is very cool if you're an info kind of guy. I like the downloadable feature with all the data - HR, power, speed, etc. Easy to see what happens, easy to see if you really did ride hard (based on the different power ratings over a period of time - 5 sec, 30 sec, 1 min, 5 min, etc).

Congrats and good luck!

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Originally Posted by carpediemracing
Got that wheel a little while ago. Want to rebuild it already - definitely lighter spokes (came with 2.0 straight) and probably a different rim - some kind of raceable rim. The wheel is unfortunately heavy and worse it has a heavy rim and spokes. But the hub is very cool
I have the same wheel build and to be honest while I have only about 100 miles on it, I cant say that I am disappointed by the weight or the performance. It is nothing that I can call a hindrance for sure. The wheel feels stiff enough when climbing out of the saddle and rolls along in a pace line just fine. It may take a nano second longer to spin up but...no biggie
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What did you build her? Or is the Epic Comp hers?
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I do not want to start another PT thread so I ask here. I hope briscoelab does not mind the hijack...

I am contemplating a PT and need justification (me and the wife)...

$1300 for the SL and $1600 for the SL 2.4 from the LBS. I want to go through the LBS for warranty issues. I always find big ticket purchases break on me...

It is a lot of cash...

Will it really make for shorter training sessions with better results?

Do you need a physics degree to understand the numbers?

Do you use it on your trainer as well as on the road?

Anybody have trouble with the wireless connection?

Is it just dang fun to look at the numbers and see whats going on?

Give me your reason....
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The wireless model seems to have some reliability issues. I dont know if thats been resolved.

I built mine into a DT Swiss RR 1.2 rim. Im probably going to send it down to Mike Garcia and have him build it into a Niobium 30 rim instead. I have a matching front wheel to go with it and if I desticker the DT Swiss front wheel, no one would notice the difference.

That wheelset is incredibily heavy.. 2200 grams I think without skewers.
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Originally Posted by Hammertoe
I do not want to start another PT thread so I ask here. I hope briscoelab does not mind the hijack...

I am contemplating a PT and need justification (me and the wife)...

$1300 for the SL and $1600 for the SL 2.4 from the LBS. I want to go through the LBS for warranty issues. I always find big ticket purchases break on me...

It is a lot of cash...

Will it really make for shorter training sessions with better results?

Do you need a physics degree to understand the numbers?

Do you use it on your trainer as well as on the road?

Anybody have trouble with the wireless connection?

Is it just dang fun to look at the numbers and see whats going on?

Give me your reason....
http://www.incline-training.com/services_testing.html#1

Get the Cyclist Profile testing done, and get your power numbers.....and Jay will write up a program for you. Jay Gump is probably the best around here with it. I think the test is around $250.....I'd go do it, but I don't have a powermeter .
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I was just down there getting my n-teenth fitting...

Best so far...

They are the ones that got my juices flowing on the PT....
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Originally Posted by Hammertoe
$1300 for the SL and $1600 for the SL 2.4 from the LBS. I want to go through the LBS for warranty issues. I always find big ticket purchases break on me...
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I am the same when it comes to my LBS but for $924.00 I went with Edina. Sarris has such great customer support I decided to take the chance.


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Do you need a physics degree to understand the numbers?
No, very easy to read. Making sense of the numbers I am still working on.

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Do you use it on your trainer as well as on the road?
Yes...

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Anybody have trouble with the wireless connection?
I have the wired which is wireless for about 2 inches. Occasional dropout near high power lines. For now I will stick with the wired. I just don't trust wireless.

Originally Posted by Hammertoe
Is it just dang fun to look at the numbers and see whats going on?
Sorta depressing Working on changing that.

Originally Posted by Hammertoe
Give me your reason....
My thoughts are the powermeter will give me more quality with less quantity. Time is precious....
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garysol1...Thanks for the review...

Wifey is not to keen on the idea...

Not sure it will happen...
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Originally Posted by voltman
What did you build her? Or is the Epic Comp hers?

The Epic Comp is my bike. I got it for a steal at my LBS and took the money I saved over the Expert and built it up the way *I* wanted Her new race bike is a Salsa Motorapido with:

X0 twisties
XT front der/X9 rear der
SID Team fork with poplock
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Hope Pro II hubs laced with Dt Swiss Revolutions to some Stan's 355 ABT rims
Schwalbe Nobby Nick 2.1" front tire/ Racing Ralph 2.1" rear
Eggbeater SL Pedals
Race Face Dues flat bar
WTB saddle

It's already a 20 lb bike without really trying (Starting with a size XS frame helps ). Only thing left to change on it is the crankset... we just took her old one and slapped it on there for now. Thinking about a Race Face Dues for it. She loves it so far... it fits much better than her previous bike. First race on it is tomorrow... so we'll see how it goes.
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Originally Posted by carpediemracing
Got that wheel a little while ago. Want to rebuild it already - definitely lighter spokes (came with 2.0 straight) and probably a different rim - some kind of raceable rim. The wheel is unfortunately heavy and worse it has a heavy rim and spokes. But the hub is very cool

Congrats and good luck!

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Thanks for the comments. This wheel is luckly built with the DT Swiss Competitions... so they are a little lighter than the straight 2.0s. What rim is your's built with? The r1.1 is a fairly lightweight rim. The double eyelet version, which I assume they use to build this wheel, weighs about 460 grams. That's roughly the same as the Niobium 30 rims.
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Originally Posted by briscoelab

Now the temptation is to take it with me on our cycling honeymoon trip to Italy. Just to see how pathetic I really am on the climbs
Where are you going to ride?

I'm in the planning stages for next year's trip to Tuscany.
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Originally Posted by briscoelab
Thanks for the comments. This wheel is luckly built with the DT Swiss Competitions... so they are a little lighter than the straight 2.0s. What rim is your's built with? The r1.1 is a fairly lightweight rim. The double eyelet version, which I assume they use to build this wheel, weighs about 460 grams. That's roughly the same as the Niobium 30 rims.
My wheel was built by wheelbuilders.com. It's a 32H stock wheel from QBP, uses DT spokes and the 1.1 rim. Great for training. Very heavy though. I have a Michelin Pro Light something tire and it still feels like a ton of bricks compared to my Reynolds wheel. To be fair I think I have an expensive cassette on that Reynolds (some ti cogs) and a regular one on the PT.

Still though. I want to swap to a tubular deep dish rim and may rebuild using a Zipp 440 rim I have laying around. My ideal wheel would be a Reynolds DV to match my front wheel but I don't have a rim I can fake onto a 32H hub.

Now to figure out spoke sizes for the 440/PT combo...

where is my spoke calc spreadsheet,
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Originally Posted by maalea
Where are you going to ride?

I'm in the planning stages for next year's trip to Tuscany.

11 days in the Alps and the Dolomites. Stelvio, Mortirolo, Gavia, Giau, Pordoi, Sella, plus a few others. Then we'll be in Trieste for a few more days for a conference. I'm thinking about driving up to Ovaro to try the Zoncolan since it's only about an hour and a half from Trieste. I'll at least get some rides into Slovenia in while there.
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Originally Posted by carpediemracing
My wheel was built by wheelbuilders.com. It's a 32H stock wheel from QBP, uses DT spokes and the 1.1 rim. Great for training. Very heavy though. I have a Michelin Pro Light something tire and it still feels like a ton of bricks compared to my Reynolds wheel. To be fair I think I have an expensive cassette on that Reynolds (some ti cogs) and a regular one on the PT.

Still though. I want to swap to a tubular deep dish rim and may rebuild using a Zipp 440 rim I have laying around. My ideal wheel would be a Reynolds DV to match my front wheel but I don't have a rim I can fake onto a 32H hub.

Now to figure out spoke sizes for the 440/PT combo...

where is my spoke calc spreadsheet,
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Yea, I know it isn't going to feel like my Zipp 404 tubular rear wheel.... but not much else does
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Originally Posted by briscoelab
11 days in the Alps and the Dolomites. Stelvio, Mortirolo, Gavia, Giau, Pordoi, Sella, plus a few others. Then we'll be in Trieste for a few more days for a conference. I'm thinking about driving up to Ovaro to try the Zoncolan since it's only about an hour and a half from Trieste. I'll at least get some rides into Slovenia in while there.
WOW, Very nice. You're hitting almost all of the classic Giro climbs. Enjoy!!!!!
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