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Raising the saddle when your more comfortable?

Old 06-01-07, 04:54 PM
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Raising the saddle when your more comfortable?

I read in a few posts about guys/girls raising their saddle when they become more comfortable or flexible on the bike. Is this true?
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No, I don't think so in general. Saddle height is primarily a "fit" or "measurement" thing ... not something determined by whether or not your "tipy-toeing" or not.

There are two or three mainstream concepts to determine best saddle height. Do a few searches on the forum and/or on Google and you'll find all of them pretty easily.
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Be very careful about raising or lowering your saddle if you are comfortable now. Doing so can lead to all sorts of achilles tendon and knee problems.
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Thanks for the responses. I recently had another bike fitting done, due to a sore back, and I lowered my saddle a bit. I KINDA feel like the saddle is a lil bit too low now. Could I raise it like an 8th of an inch?
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Originally Posted by woodcycl
No, I don't think so in general. Saddle height is primarily a "fit" or "measurement" thing ... not something determined by whether or not your "tipy-toeing" or not.

There are two or three mainstream concepts to determine best saddle height. Do a few searches on the forum and/or on Google and you'll find all of them pretty easily.
I know of the "put your heel on the pedal and your leg should be perfectly straight?"

never heard of any other ones.
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Originally Posted by dannyq
I know of the "put your heel on the pedal and your leg should be perfectly straight?"

never heard of any other ones.
That is the "old school" method that I, too, learned on from the late 80's and early 90's. I still use it.
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Originally Posted by dannyq
Thanks for the responses. I recently had another bike fitting done, due to a sore back, and I lowered my saddle a bit. I KINDA feel like the saddle is a lil bit too low now. Could I raise it like an 8th of an inch?
Which fitting concept was it? Serotta? I had a bike fit done (Serotta) last year more for "peace of mind" to see how far off I was. I was surprisingly very close to what was recommended. She did recommend raising my saddle about 1/8" though.

I wouldn't change it more than 1/8" at a time ... otherwise, your likely to have some knee pain.
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cool. I assume you like it. I'll try it. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by woodcycl
Which fitting concept was it? Serotta? I had a bike fit done (Serotta) last year more for "peace of mind" to see how far off I was. I was surprisingly very close to what was recommended. She did recommend raising my saddle about 1/8" though.

I wouldn't change it more than 1/8" at a time ... otherwise, your likely to have some knee pain.

Agreed. I think i'll raise it an lil bit and see what happens.
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Originally Posted by dannyq
Thanks for the responses. I recently had another bike fitting done, due to a sore back, and I lowered my saddle a bit. I KINDA feel like the saddle is a lil bit too low now. Could I raise it like an 8th of an inch?
I would think that 1/8" could be too much. Raise it ever so slightly (1-2mm) and ride it to see if it's better. Those slight increments can make a big difference. Remember that changing to different saddles, shoes, pedals, etc will affect this too.
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Originally Posted by grahny
I would think that 1/8" could be too much. Raise it ever so slightly (1-2mm) and ride it to see if it's better. Those slight increments can make a big difference. Remember that changing to different saddles, shoes, pedals, etc will affect this too.
Ok. I'll raise it just a smitch!.
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I've had my road bike 2 months. It was very fitted by the LBS and comfortable, but as I've ridden I've lost weight, gotten stronger and feel a bit more flexible. Lately I've felt uncomfortable trying to pull on the upstroke as if my extention wasn't right. I just raised the seat an 1/8th of an inch or so and it made a world of difference.
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I think by raising the saddle they mean raising the saddle to bars height. If your flexible you can try that by lowering the bars(flipping the stem if its in the up postion).
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I wouldn't move the saddle if you are comfortable but I would consider rotating the bars, flipping the stem, changing the stem, removing risers, repositioning controls, etc.
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Originally Posted by dannyq
Ok. I'll raise it just a smitch!.
FWIW, it's "smidge" which is short for smidgeon. (Unless there is some Canadian derivative I don't know about). Not trying to be critical. I appreciate being told when I'm misusing a word. Or, inventing one.
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Originally Posted by bruce19
FWIW, it's "smidge" which is short for smidgeon. (Unless there is some Canadian derivative I don't know about). Not trying to be critical. I appreciate being told when I'm misusing a word. Or, inventing one.
Alright then... The proper spelling is "smidgen" not "smidgeon".
Remember that song, "Every time you go, away, you take a piece of me with you"? When I was a kid I was sure that it was, "Every time you go, away, you take a piece of MEAT with you"! ...Always had this vision of a sexy girl in high heals walking away with a huge old rib eye in her hand. DAMN that woman, taking meat!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Machka
Be very careful about raising or lowering your saddle if you are comfortable now. Doing so can lead to all sorts of achilles tendon and knee problems.

I've been having some pain in my achilles area after switching to a new bike. Is that typical of a saddle that's too low or too high? Judging by the bend in my knee, I thought it was alright - around 10 degrees or so.
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Originally Posted by Ahaz
I've been having some pain in my achilles area after switching to a new bike. Is that typical of a saddle that's too low or too high? Judging by the bend in my knee, I thought it was alright - around 10 degrees or so.
I think that the knee bend should be 25-35 degrees, so the signs are pointing to the seat being too high.

The achilles tendon issue is usually related to pedalling with your toes. That's caused by a cleat that's too far forward on the shoe or pedalling with the toes pointed down too far (seat too high again).
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Originally Posted by Mach42
I think that the knee bend should be 25-35 degrees, so the signs are pointing to the seat being too high.

The achilles tendon issue is usually related to pedalling with your toes. That's caused by a cleat that's too far forward on the shoe or pedalling with the toes pointed down too far (seat too high again).

Toes pointed downward sounds like it exactly. I actually thought my cleats were fairly far back towards the heel....

Maybe I'll try lowering the seatpost, and seeing where that gets me.
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Originally Posted by theshoemaker
Alright then... The proper spelling is "smidgen" not "smidgeon".
Remember that song, "Every time you go, away, you take a piece of me with you"? When I was a kid I was sure that it was, "Every time you go, away, you take a piece of MEAT with you"! ...Always had this vision of a sexy girl in high heals walking away with a huge old rib eye in her hand. DAMN that woman, taking meat!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks. Typo on my part. Nothing like song lyrics to keep you up at night with words.
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