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Road Cycling Snob?

Old 06-02-07, 02:00 PM
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Road Cycling Snob?

OK, here's one. I am back into cycling after 12 years away from it. Was a Cat 4 racing person. I have been going out on my 2.6 mile loop I do 6-7X's. I try to stay at a very good pace. Recently a few cyclist will ride up to me gasping, tired as hell, exhausted and delirious. Yo man can I ride with you? To which I respond, sure. Then I hear; yo man wait up, wait up. what kind of bike is that you have.

Now, I am not a snob, but if you want to ride with me, stay with me and do not talk much. Stay a line, keep away from me, I don't care about your kids, and the laces on your sneakers need to be tied.

I go out alone to strive for a personal best every day and clear my mind. Why do people feel the need to be cohesive in riding. Their clothing, bikes, no helmets, and overall finese on a bike is horrible. I am not like them, although I am also no better than them.
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Originally Posted by ThinLine
Yo man can I ride with you? To which I respond, sure. Then I hear; yo man wait up, wait up.
Ah yes, the urban cyclist... Represent!

Maybe we're just trying to be friendly. Or maybe they're just waiting for you to get into some long winded story about how you acquired your bike just as you approach a hill and he dials it up to 400 watts and he's like, "ahahha sucker! cya!!" and leaves you in the dust.
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Originally Posted by slvoid
Ah yes, the urban cyclist... Represent!

Maybe we're just trying to be friendly. Or maybe they're just waiting for you to get into some long winded story about how you acquired your bike just as you approach a hill and he dials it up to 400 watts and he's like, "ahahha sucker! cya!!" and leaves you in the dust.
There you go, worst things have happened.
I know that just because you have a $3000 bike and top shelf spandex body covering, does not make you fast.
I have seen them too. I've seen guys on Colnago Carbon bikes with Assos premium clothing all dialed in for a 3 mile ride pushing their bikes up hills.
Never could figure that one out.
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Originally Posted by ThinLine
There you go, worst things have happened.
I know that just because you have a $3000 bike and top shelf spandex body covering, does not make you fast.
I have seen them too. I've seen guys on Colnago Carbon bikes with Assos premium clothing all dialed in for a 3 mile ride pushing their bikes up hills.
Never could figure that one out.


You ride carbon fibre?
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Originally Posted by red house
You ride carbon fibre?
Good one. Almost got me. Chuckle was acheived.
Actually, yes a couple I have are CF.
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That's ok. I didn't want to ride with you. I was just calling "wait up" to tell you that giant rip in your shorts looked really bad.
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What is wrong with a couple of seconds of small talk , these guys may be noobs and just want to swap a couple of words and go about their business. Are you one of these guys that is too cool to give a nod or a wave to a passing cyclist?
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It’s all about you isn’t it? Who is the “them” that you are afraid of being?
Life truly is a bother when someone that you share your planet with upsets your expectations.
Don’t you just hate it when folks less genuine than you, less in touch, try and connect with someone obviously deeper and with more meaning in their lives such as you? (Why don’t they get it?)
The worst are those that need something, like why don’t they just go get it themselves? Is it our job to validate them?
They should know what the purpose of riding is; it certainly isn’t a community thing… if they want community they should go to a Blog, Church or something right?
Thank God He gave you the ability to know others motives and worth, wouldn’t want to waste it on some poser or wana-be. (How dare someone wear nice clothing, or buy a nice machine and use it other than what you think they should!!!) How dare someone lower than you want to ask you a question? (or someone that has made the mistake of looking up to you.)
It’s like the homeless that beg for money, why don’t they all just get jobs and quit bothering us to share our abundance?
You are right on two points, that is not being a snob… and no, you are no better than them.
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Originally Posted by roadpig2001
What is wrong with a couple of seconds of small talk , these guys may be noobs and just want to swap a couple of words and go about their business. Are you one of these guys that is too cool to give a nod or a wave to a passing cyclist?
The question is: At what point does doing what you set out to do become rude?

If you set out to do a pace ride and another cyclist asks to tag along at your pace, that's fine. If they ask you to modify your pace to accommodate them, that's a completely different story. I'm all for friendliness, but there are limits.
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I was coming back from bonking at mile 35 of my ride after heading out of my house in 95 degree weather, high humidity, after having a can of olives for breakfast, and only 1/2 a bottle of water in 2 hours when I came across a lady riding a soft-ride down the road. It was obvious that I was completely wasted so there was no point in passing her only to stay like 2 ft ahead so I decided to just pull along and strike up a small conversation about her bike. Well a few minutes later she told me her cup size. So yeah, don't be a snob.
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Wow, I think I hit a nerve.
Sorry, I always nod, and would be the first to catch up and chat with them after my ride. Been there done that.

Although I am a self-centered, materialistic individual. Honest about it.
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There are social rides, and there are hard rides. If you're really worried about it just tell them that you're trying to keep the pace up because you're doing a hard ride. You'll either drop them or find yourself a new riding partner to rip your legs off on hard days.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
There are social rides, and there are hard rides. If you're really worried about it just tell them that you're trying to keep the pace up because you're doing a hard ride. You'll either drop them or find yourself a new riding partner to rip your legs off on hard days.
He should just bang his fist against the bike computer and say "I can't slow this crazy thing down, I think it's broken!!"
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Despite being quite the social butterfly in BF, when I am riding I am pretty much an introvert. Even when riding with friends and family I'm not much on conversation, and when riding alone and meeting strangers, bout all you're gonna get is a 'howdy', and maybe a couple of seconds of small talk, if you are the talkative type...otherwise, I'm gonna ride my ride...you can ride along, but don't bug me - and if you can't keep up or I am going too slow, oh well. Riding is MY time...I'll be polite as I can, but if you are expecting Kumbuya and warm showers, fogetaboudit.

Ok, I might be a little more extroverted on group rides with friends...especially if pretty gals are afoot, but that doesn't mean I'm friendly. I'm mean, I'm mean, I'm mean, dammit.
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Originally Posted by slvoid
He should just bang his fist against the bike computer and say "I can't slow this crazy thing down, I think it's broken!!"
+1 Post of the day!
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Perhaps the most impolite thing mentioned so far in this thread is asking to suck someone's wheel and then telling them to slow down.
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even though i wear a helmet every time out, but whats so awful about someone not wearing one? Pro's weren't force to wear helmets until a few years back, even split your head open as a kid riding bmx or your schwinn stingray? i didn't.
I do understand what you are saying when you say you are trying to do a personal best and clear your mind. sometimes thats important. I don't think your a snob, more focused than anything.
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Originally Posted by chipcom
Despite being quite the social butterfly in BF, when I am riding I am pretty much an introvert. Even when riding with friends and family I'm not much on conversation, and when riding alone and meeting strangers, bout all you're gonna get is a 'howdy', and maybe a couple of seconds of small talk, if you are the talkative type...otherwise, I'm gonna ride my ride...you can ride along, but don't bug me - and if you can't keep up or I am going too slow, oh well. Riding is MY time...I'll be polite as I can, but if you are expecting Kumbuya and warm showers, fogetaboudit.

Ok, I might be a little more extroverted on group rides with friends...especially if pretty gals are afoot, but that doesn't mean I'm friendly. I'm mean, I'm mean, I'm mean, dammit.
+1

To paraphrase Uma Thurman "You know you've found a good riding partner when you can just shut the f**k up and suffer".
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Originally Posted by DrPete
Perhaps the most impolite thing mentioned so far in this thread is asking to suck someone's wheel and then telling them to slow down.
+1 I really look forward to someone who is faster then me and is staying 50-75 yards in front of me even though I'm going all out trying to catch up. I would never ask them to slow down.
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Originally Posted by ThinLine
OK, here's one. I am back into cycling after 12 years away from it. Was a Cat 4 racing person. I have been going out on my 2.6 mile loop I do 6-7X's. I try to stay at a very good pace. Recently a few cyclist will ride up to me gasping, tired as hell, exhausted and delirious. Yo man can I ride with you? To which I respond, sure. Then I hear; yo man wait up, wait up. what kind of bike is that you have.

Now, I am not a snob, but if you want to ride with me, stay with me and do not talk much. Stay a line, keep away from me, I don't care about your kids, and the laces on your sneakers need to be tied.

I go out alone to strive for a personal best every day and clear my mind. Why do people feel the need to be cohesive in riding. Their clothing, bikes, no helmets, and overall finese on a bike is horrible. I am not like them, although I am also no better than them.
I agree with some of the things you say (mainly wearing a helmet) and the part about not talking too much during a ride.

I would never ask someone to slow down and if they did I would feel they are not someone I want to ride with. I also would only be interested to ride with someone who is faster than me so I can get faster.

I'm new to riding (1 month) and as far as the clothes if you saw me I'm probably one of the people you do not like (wear gym shorts, flat platform pedals on a Fuji Roubaix bike due to bad expereiences with cheap Wellgo Look style pedals (have Keo classics on order so I will give clipless another shot))
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Now I know why I ride solo and never ask another roadie I see anything .
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Originally Posted by slvoid
I was coming back from bonking at mile 35 of my ride after heading out of my house in 95 degree weather, high humidity, after having a can of olives for breakfast, and only 1/2 a bottle of water in 2 hours when I came across a lady riding a soft-ride down the road. It was obvious that I was completely wasted so there was no point in passing her only to stay like 2 ft ahead so I decided to just pull along and strike up a small conversation about her bike. Well a few minutes later she told me her cup size. So yeah, don't be a snob.
lol a cans of olives. ......waitaminute.......her cup size**********??
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lol a cans of olives. ......waitaminute.......her cup size**********??
I must be an expert or something - I've never looked at a woman and thought "I wonder what her cup size is?"
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Originally Posted by scottmilk9
even though i wear a helmet every time out, but whats so awful about someone not wearing one? Pro's weren't force to wear helmets until a few years back, even split your head open as a kid riding bmx or your schwinn stingray? i didn't.
I do understand what you are saying when you say you are trying to do a personal best and clear your mind. sometimes thats important. I don't think your a snob, more focused than anything.
i didn't either, but i knew a girl who did. and i also didn't wear a seatbelt when i was growing up, because my parent's car didn't have seatbelts in the backseat. but i know people who died from being ejected from a car, and i always wear my seatbelt, and i always wear my helmet. small things that can limit an accident to bruises and cuts rather than being a vegetable are worth it.

that said, i don't care if someone else doesn't wear their seatbelt or helmet. if they want to risk their life for a minor inconvenience it is fine by me, it doesn't bother me in the least.
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