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quick release wheels banned in New Jersey

Old 06-12-07, 12:13 PM
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quick release wheels banned in New Jersey

...in NJ if this passes.

https://www.thnt.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar.../NEWS/70611009

Viva the Nanny State!
 
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""The dangers surrounding the current models of quick-release bikes far outweigh any time saving benefits they may offer,'' said Assemblyman Paul Moriarty, D-Gloucester, a bill sponsor.
What dangers? Could it be the idiots that don't learn how to use a quick release are a danger to themselves?

What's next? Straws... cause some kid rammed one up their nose? Sheesh.

How about pencils... after all they are sharp.
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AHHH, that is Paul Moriarity....he used to be one of those consumer nanny reporters on the local Philadelphia news. What an idiot. How about he clean up all the industrial waste instead?

Here is a link to the chemical waste in his zipcode.

https://www.scorecard.org/env-release...nty_code=34015

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Old 06-12-07, 12:31 PM
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Slippery slope, 20" wheels now, bigger wheels later, then bikes altogether? It is almost as outrageous as not being able to pump your own gas.
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So, recumbents can't have QR?

Wow, I'm in agreement with you! The apocalypse is near!
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Originally Posted by Pete Fagerlin
Viva the Nanny State!
Yeah, but, but, but....

Its for the CHILDREN!
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Originally Posted by maddyfish
Slippery slope, 20" wheels now, bigger wheels later, then bikes altogether? It is almost as outrageous as not being able to pump your own gas.

Hey, I happen to love not having to pump my own gas. Especially in the winter..... Maybe they could just propose that we have special people to remove our bike wheels since we can't be trusted to do it ourselves.
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Old 06-12-07, 02:21 PM
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You've got to be kidding me, J.H. Christ . . .

Even if you are not a N.J. resident, I implore the members here to email this guy and tell him how ridiculous this law is.

https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/members/moriarty.asp
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Old 06-12-07, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dydst
You've got to be kidding me, J.H. Christ . . .

Even if you are not a N.J. resident, I implore the members here to email this guy and tell him how ridiculous this law is.

https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/members/moriarty.asp

I live one county over. I can tell you that Gloucester is one f-ed up county. It gives sprawl a whole new meaning. The legistlators are very, very involved with everyone's lives. They are doing tons of eminent domain. They even tore down a local landmark...an inn that Ben Franklin stayed at to make way for a liquor superstore. Guess what they call it.....Landmark Liquors....
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I had completely forgotten about something that happened to a grade school classmate until reading this...
The kid didn't have the 9/16" wrench on hand to firmly connect his front wheel to the fork. So he tightened it as tight as he could by hand and went for a spin. Got a little road rash, he did.
So how exactly does an axle which requires a specific, separate tool benefit the riders least likely to possess such a tool, much less the experience and foresight to carry it around? Not to mention, bolt on axles are certainly cheaper, that's why kid's bikes don't come with them anyway. The only riders this would affect would be the ones with the experience and income to outfit themselves with quick release hubs.

Let's ban dull razors next so kids don't cut themselves when they're shaving back that stubborn stubble.
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Old 06-12-07, 03:32 PM
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Somebody SLAP that fool!
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Old 06-12-07, 03:32 PM
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What are the odds of this turd of a bill being passed? Does it have a real shot or is it another "See? I'm doing something!" type of thing.
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Originally Posted by maddyfish
Slippery slope, 20" wheels now, bigger wheels later, then bikes altogether? It is almost as outrageous as not being able to pump your own gas.
We're not allowed to pump our own gas in OR. Drives me nuts, but most of the population is convinced that it's dangerous and requires special skills. They couldn't even pass a law which would allow self serve pumps but require full service for the same price.

I'd imagine that the QR law would have little practical effect. The kiddie bikes typically don't have QR, and I wouldn't be surprised if those selling bents and trikes failed to notice the law.

The problem is dumb laws almost always get passed if they are billed as a safety measure for children.
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Old 06-12-07, 05:44 PM
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Yet NJ is one of the states without a 3 foot passing law?
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How about them "lawyer lips"? I spend $5000+ on my bike and they have little tabs on the front fork that defeats the whole purpose of quick release skewers. Sheesh!

At least when I filed them off my bike was lighter!
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Old 06-13-07, 04:59 AM
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There should be a quick release program for legislators who don't know what they are talking about.
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Old 06-13-07, 05:09 AM
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I think this law is silly, but it probably wouldn't stop you from buying a recumbent with quick release. The pedal-reflector rule hasn't stopped the sale of bikes with clipless pedals. Instead, bike shops sell bikes without pedals, and you buy the pedals separately.

I suspect that if this bill became law,you'd buy your bike with a bolt-on skewer. Then you'd pay an extra few bucks to buy quick release skewers separately.
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Old 06-13-07, 05:19 AM
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the "gas pump specialists" in NJ won't fill a motorcycle, because of that I've handled a few NJ pumps, they are in poorer maintenance than in other states by far, a few though would leak gas w/o the handle being pressed fully and not register on the pump, so I'd put the nozzle in, look busy and depress the handle for a little bit... Hooray for cheap NJ gas! and all NJ politicians are morons, the voters in NJ and CA have something wrong with them. Don't forget too that NJ is a state that will lock you away for illegal possesion of a firearm for having a BB gun w/o a permit.
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Originally Posted by banerjek
We're not allowed to pump our own gas in OR. Drives me nuts,.......
Drove the family and I nuts as well when the attendant has it in for vehicles with Cali license plates, we sat for twenty minutes after the pump stopped before he took our money( decided to pay cash so as not to give him any more transation time). During that twenty minutes time, I notified the attendant two times that our tank was full, and also several Ore. plated cars came and went.
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Originally Posted by Daily Commute
I think this law is silly, but it probably wouldn't stop you from buying a recumbent with quick release. The pedal-reflector rule hasn't stopped the sale of bikes with clipless pedals. Instead, bike shops sell bikes without pedals, and you buy the pedals separately.

I suspect that if this bill became law,you'd buy your bike with a bolt-on skewer. Then you'd pay an extra few bucks to buy quick release skewers separately.
Guarantee it, no way in hell I want to have to start carrying a damned 9/16 wrench everywhere.

As far as pedals go...Shimano SPD-equipped bikes in shops come with a crappy little platform insert with reflectors that fit into the pedal. Things are nearly unusable, designed for minimum compliance with the law and immediate discard.
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most things are dangerous if they aren't used correctly.
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Originally Posted by dynodonn
Drove the family and I nuts as well when the attendant has it in for vehicles with Cali license plates, we sat for twenty minutes after the pump stopped before he took our money( decided to pay cash so as not to give him any more transation time). During that twenty minutes time, I notified the attendant two times that our tank was full, and also several Ore. plated cars came and went.
Hopefully, it was just a coincidence. Unfortunately, I suspect not.

<soapbox>This state considers itself to be very progressive, but the parochial attitudes and hostility to people from other areas (particularly California) rivals what you'll find in any backwaters -- you can live here a very long time and still be regarded as an outsider. You hear the term "native Oregonian" thrown around all the time (the implication being that such a person has a greater right to be here than others or that their needs are more important). However, the state is so new that there are still many people alive today have met individuals who took part in the Indian Wars that displaced the inhabitants of lands that were populated thousands of years before Christ was born or the invention of the wheel for that matter. </soapbox>

The good news is that the culture, geography, and weather is friendlier to cycling than you'll find in most parts. Most laws up for consideration actually benefit cyclists, and they seem to be doing well.
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If they made it illegal to sell bicycles with quick releases all you guys with the fancy bikes (me included) would simply buy the quick releases as after-market products at the time of sale. Oh yeah, the sky is falling...
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I wholeheartedly agree with Mr Moriarty. And for our next bill, let's tackle all those dangerous quick-release safety belts.

It is appalling that something as vital to our safety can be easily and inadvertently released. They should be bolted or locked in some way, so that a flailing hand doesn't release them in the event of a collision
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Originally Posted by atbman
I wholeheartedly agree with Mr Moriarty. And for our next bill, let's tackle all those dangerous quick-release safety belts.

It is appalling that something as vital to our safety can be easily and inadvertently released. They should be bolted or locked in some way, so that a flailing hand doesn't release them in the event of a collision
I recommend combination locks for both safety belts and doors of all vehicles. Can't ever have enough safety
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