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botto 06-18-07 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by Adagio Corse
The law of diminishing returns when it comes to high quality applies to everything: audio, clothes, bikes, cars, etc.

Here are good analogies:

Are any of the following more expensive items really over 150% better? No. But people still pay more.
custom made Brioni suite for $5500 vs. an off-the-rack Armani for $2100
Krell DVD player for $5000 vs. Pioneer Elite DVD player for $1500
Runco flatscreen plasma tv for $20,000 vs. Fujitsu flatscreen for $9,000

stainless steel Rolex for $3,000 vs. stainless steel Seiko for $500

For some people, that extra ounce of performance/comfort is worth the additional $3000 because that's how they value things in their lives.

I HATE Performance jerseys and shorts, not because I'm a brand snob, but because the materials they use itch the hell out of me. But baselayers by Craft and Assos are the bomb in comfort and fit. I wear $70 bibs from aerotechdesigns.com because they are actually comfortable, but I also wear Assos bibs because I appreciate the noticeable improvement in comfort on 50+ mile rides.

which rolex compared to which seiko?

ThinLine 06-18-07 01:39 PM

Descent and Pearl Izumi are the most I'll spend and the quality and technical materials are great.
Anything less in my opinion, is shabby in quality, fit, stiching, panels, etc.

Law of diminishing returns applies here.

CastIron 06-18-07 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by ThinLine
Descent and Pearl Izumi are the most I'll spend and the quality and technical materials are great.
Anything less in my opinion, is shabby in quality, fit, stiching,panels, etc.

Law of diminishing returns applies here.

Indeed it does. To some folks, however, that diminished return is worth a mere $200. Everyone has a different set of needs, wants, and resources to fill them.

roadgator 06-18-07 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by mleess
Selma Hayek better be wearing it and walking toward me with a big smile on her face.

i hope you know she is gianormous and pregnant now. but before...:D

mleess 06-18-07 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by roadgator
i hope you know she is gianormous and pregnant now. but before...:D

Pregnant women are glowing and radiant and beautiful. Don't you know the mantra?

FatguyRacer 06-18-07 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by Pharmr
for that...she better be holding it in her hand and wearing only that big smile ;)

Considering she is very very pregant right now, that would be how i'd want her to presented it to me too. :D

labrat_62 06-18-07 04:44 PM

for 300 there should be no walking involved

BillyD 06-18-07 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by mleess
Pregnant women are glowing and radiant and beautiful. Don't you know the mantra?

Bull____!!!
They're nowhere near as beautiful as pre-pregnant.

Cassadamius 06-18-07 06:48 PM

http://www.castelli-us.com/ps-717-1-...ra-jersey.aspx

Here's the link for that Castelli jersey. It's relatively inexpensive, but it seems like it wouldn't be too durable. Apparently, the reason the material is so light is because it's got a hollow core.....you may throw it in the washing machine, and when you open it up to get your clothes out, there's only dust.

pedalada 06-18-07 10:10 PM

I've looked over the Assos stuff and I'm perfectly satisfied with Nalini and Santini jerseys which I seem to be able to find for under $40 on a regular basis. It took me a couple tries to figure-out the sizes but now I have it wired. Some of the Castelli stuff is nice but I don't like the fabric in their lower end lines. Pearl Izumi jerseys make my Garmin 305 HR monitor ****-out. I think the Rapha stuff is far more ridiculous than Assos.

Looneytuna 06-18-07 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by group105
It's a closely guarded secret amongst the Pros but the that Jersey increaes yuor AVG by 3mph. :D

That's an exaggeration... it's actually an increase of only 1.873 mph AVG... :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

botto 06-19-07 01:44 AM


Originally Posted by pedalada
I've looked over the Assos stuff and I'm perfectly satisfied with Nalini and Santini jerseys which I seem to be able to find for under $40 on a regular basis. It took me a couple tries to figure-out the sizes but now I have it wired. Some of the Castelli stuff is nice but I don't like the fabric in their lower end lines. Pearl Izumi jerseys make my Garmin 305 HR monitor ****-out. I think the Rapha stuff is far more ridiculous than Assos.

agreed.

rapha is stuck in some luddite-pie-in-the-sky-the-best-days-when-men-were-men-are-behind-us-so-lets-commemorate-it-with-kit nonsense.

cyclezealot 06-19-07 02:06 AM

any pictures. what makes assos so pricey. We have a club kit with Surgoi name from some local outlet , bibs and jersey for 97 dollars. It's all just lycra. Because its over 25 orders we get some kind of discount tho.

botto 06-19-07 02:49 AM


Originally Posted by cyclezealot
any pictures.

http://www.assos.com/web_assos_produ...tate-00153.jpg

super high tech materials, every aspect of the construction thought out, etc, etc.

fwiw - even i think the price is OTT


Originally Posted by cyclezealot
what makes assos so pricey. We have a club kit with Surgoi name from some local outlet , bibs and jersey for 97 dollars. It's all just lycra. Because its over 25 orders we get some kind of discount tho.

have you ever owned any assos clothing?

gcl8a 06-19-07 02:56 AM

You look a lot younger than I thought you would...

botto 06-19-07 03:05 AM


Originally Posted by gcl8a
You look a lot younger than I thought you would...

it's the hair dye. ;)

Super Guanche 06-19-07 03:28 AM


Originally Posted by botto
fwiw - even i think the price is OTT

And the Uno jerseys look nicer

cyclezealot 06-19-07 03:53 AM

years ago I bought some Assos shorts on sale. They were comfortable. But the price of shorts and jersey might come to 500 bucks ? Can almost buy a suit for that price. I just don't see that much extra comfort to say Pearl Izumi for half the price. I'd rather put the money into the bike.

mleess 06-19-07 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by BillyD
Bull____!!!
They're nowhere near as beautiful as pre-pregnant.

You are obviously not married, my friend. :)

CyLowe97 06-19-07 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by botto
agreed.

rapha is stuck in some luddite-pie-in-the-sky-the-best-days-when-men-were-men-are-behind-us-so-lets-commemorate-it-with-kit nonsense.

Yeah, nostalgia costs good money, even when it's made in China....

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/207/4...9c96ea02_o.jpg

cravenmonket 01-11-10 05:57 AM

I have a Rapha jersey and it is hands-down the nicest jersey I have ever worn. It was a gift, and cost $195. That's a lot of scratch, but not when you consider that I'd rather have one Rapha jersey than three inferior jerseys at $65 a pop, or two average team commemorative jerseys at $95 a pop (or more). The fabric, cut, design and craftsmanship of Rapha jerseys are extraordinary. And if they are made in China, that rather indicates that the Chinese are damn good at making high-end cycling wear.

FWIW, I wear Assos F1 Uno bib shorts, and they are awesome, too - cost $160 I think. Worth every penny. I've stopped searching for the perfect pair of cycling shorts; Assos makes them.

lambo_vt 01-11-10 06:29 AM

Finally, someone jumps into this thread to defend Rapha... I've been waiting 2.5 years!!!

rangerdavid 01-11-10 06:40 AM

whatever the market will bear.

Homebrew01 01-11-10 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by lambo_vt (Post 10253525)
Finally, someone jumps into this thread to defend Rapha... I've been waiting 2.5 years!!!

Me too .... Nothing better than jerks reviving old threads so the rest of us can waste our time re-reading old crap.

rollin 01-11-10 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by cravenmonket (Post 10253477)
I have a Rapha jersey and it is hands-down the nicest jersey I have ever worn. It was a gift, and cost $195. That's a lot of scratch, but not when you consider that I'd rather have one Rapha jersey than three inferior jerseys at $65 a pop, or two average team commemorative jerseys at $95 a pop (or more). The fabric, cut, design and craftsmanship of Rapha jerseys are extraordinary. And if they are made in China, that rather indicates that the Chinese are damn good at making high-end cycling wear.

FWIW, I wear Assos F1 Uno bib shorts, and they are awesome, too - cost $160 I think. Worth every penny. I've stopped searching for the perfect pair of cycling shorts; Assos makes them.

I thought Northern California missed most of the bad weather, seems like you have a lot of time on your hands.


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