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700c Men's Schwinn Varsity Road Bike?

Old 09-26-09, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Ozerimar View Post
I don't want to be rude but the schwinn varsity weighs 21LBS out of the box with kickstand. This bike comes in 4 different versions and the varsity is the bike walmart sells. However, the other three bikes from schwinn are exact equivalents of the varsity minus graphics and model name change. So, is this a good bike ?or a bad bike? Well first off tires are weak, rear hub with no quick release, shimano tourney equipped with stem shifters . Everything else is solid. Once you upgrade these parts you got a great bike. But for what it is and for what you paid for it , it is a great bike and a great buy. Yes it is made in china but so are many other high end bikes.
um the caad9 7 weighs about 20 stock... i highly doubt the varsity weighs 21
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Originally Posted by Ozerimar View Post
You are incorrect! The Kent denali and schwinn varsity are completely different frames. The schwinn bike frames some but not all are made at the Giant bicycle corporation and the schwin varsity happens to be one of them. This bike weighs 21LBS out of the Box! (I own one and a dozen other road bikes)The kent denali weighs 10lbs more and is less of a bike but, a great buy for a new bike. These are both entry level road bikes and very afforable to anyone on a budget so there is no excuse not to get out there and start riding. Personally I favor my old raleigh super grand grix with lugged steel frames for riding. They dont make them like they used to. It does not even compare to the new raleigh clubman now thats a piece for a grand.
Incorrect? GO TO THE FRICKEN WALMART WEBSITE!!!!!! it plainly says Alluminum 6061 frame, the same as the GMC Denali, which btw WALMART SELLS!! BOTH BIKES!! they are the same b.s. the only difference is that the Schwinn has way better brakes.
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Originally Posted by crhilton View Post
Where was all the weight? In the cranks?
Im glad Im not the only one to notice that, how did he lose 10lbs from that heavy ass frame, I have the denali bike and the frame is a boat.
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I bought not one, but two different models of the varisty.
I bought the "carbon fiber" one (really, carbon fiber wrapped around aluminum - a joke, but I got this one because it had Shimano brifters, 2200 rear derailleur and better rims). IT was $344. Walmart was selling a real carbon fiber Varsity with decent components for $500 but I haven't seen it around.

I then proceeded to upgrade every friggen component and then bought the Nashbar Aluc frame and a carbon fork, which gave me a completely different bike. (Ultegra and 105 mixed group with cheap brakes). I then put all the parts back together for my older son to have a cheap entry bike. The fact this one has brifters does make a difference, but they are 7 speed.

I wanted to get into wrenching on bicycles and this was a good experience for me, but cost-wise it was a waste.

My younger son wanted to get riding so we bough the $199 silver/yellow Varsity you linked. IT was pretty craptacular. The wheels and tires are pretty bad, and the stem shifters are barely adequate, although they do work. We wound up buying a Performance road frame in a proper size for him, and then my wife wanted it so I threw on some flat handlebars and she's happy tooling around. With the new frame and bars, it cost us just over $300.

For $400 I could have gotten a new bikesdirect bike with brifters and much better components all around. (Target also has the Forge road bike for $400)

Since then, I picked up a used Trek 1200 for super cheap, and after riding it - I think I would strongly recommend a good used bike, or bikesdirect, or some of the clearance Performancebike deals.

Really, once you get under $400 for a new bike you will sacrificing a lot - and these bike will have virtually no resale value.

If you can't save up at least $400, then get a good used bike for $200-$300. Sure it will probably have downtube shifters instead of brifters, but you can even upgrade to brifters after riding a while. You might get lucky and get some accessories with the bike too -> I've spent over $400 just in all the accessories I felt I needed. (pump, patch kit, mini tool, seat bag, jersey, shorts, shoes, cheap bike computer, pedals, helmet, gloves, spare tubes, lube, eventually bought an indoor trainer, a bag to hold all the stuff, specialty tools, and the list keeps growing.)

For what it's worth, the biggest single problem with these cheap road bikes is they use old school rubber rim tape, and with higher air pressure it gets sucked into the spoke holes and pops the tube. (read the reviews on these and see how many people complain). This is fixed easily with a roll of real rim tape.

But break down that $200 (The Denali I saw last night for $130) and divide the cost into each component on the bike...How much do you think those wheels cost? Tires? Crank? Shifters? Brakes? etc etc...They had to cut a lot of corners to get to that price point.
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Originally Posted by FR4NCH1SE View Post
Incorrect? GO TO THE FRICKEN WALMART WEBSITE!!!!!! it plainly says Alluminum 6061 frame, the same as the GMC Denali, which btw WALMART SELLS!! BOTH BIKES!! they are the same b.s. the only difference is that the Schwinn has way better brakes.

I don't know if the Varsity is 21 pounds, but it is significantly lighter than the GMC Denali. I was just at my local Wal-Mart picking up some groceries. Both bikes were there and all assembled. I hefted each one. The GMC was a tank and the Varsity not so bad. They are not the same bike.

That said, I don't recommend either bike to the OP. I agree with those posters recommending a used road bike.
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Well both of these bike are at the bottom of the barrel cheap. You know the saying "it is what it is" "they are what they are" "you get what you paid for" but still for a beater bike I bought to use in places i wont ride my trek it's great. Am I embarressed by riding it ? Heck no and make sure you change the tires immediately.
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SCHWINN Varsity Road bikes

Originally Posted by fish0n View Post
Well have deiced instead of fixing my Fisher Tarpon Mt. bike, to convert to a road bike. A Mt. bike with slicks is ok, but I'm wanting a bike with more speed. I'm planing on going with an older used model for now. I though I would do some research on the older road bikes, so I googled Schwinn varsity, and up popped this link : http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...30660804602498 (Please read specifications)

I'm wondering what you all think of it? I know that store bought bikes are junk, but maybe this one is the exception? If going with this bike would be a bad idea, what would be some older road bikes I should be looking out for?

Here's some information for you, and for all those who are snarky about the bike from the "toy" section of Walmart:
I have the EXACT bike you linked to, the silver and yellow Varsity. I purchased it at my local Walmart in March of 2010 (its actually an 09 model). Since that time, this "toy" bike has racked up nearly 18,000 miles.. yes, EIGHTEEN THOUSAND.. with absolutely NO PROBLEMS! I ride it as transportation daily, a 26 mile RT commute to work and back, 5 days a week, plus an average of 25-30 per day on my days off. In appropriate weathe, it is not uncommon for me to take a 50-60 mile ride, just because I can, and because I truly enjoy riding this bike. By choice, I did convert it to a flat road bar (easier on my back), and I did go to MUCH better Continental Gatorskin tires after the stock tires wore out around 3,000 miles. 2 sets of tires, one set of brake pads, plus the bar replacement, is ALL I have done to this bike. Even with the high mileage, it still has the original chain and shift cables.
The reality is that even those fancy-schmancy TREK, Cannondale, Diamondback, GT, and other bikes are all made in... wait for it... CHINA. In fact, I have been to several of the local Phoenix bike shops and challenged them to show me one of their "high end" bikes that has gone 18,000 miles with no breakdowns, and they have all failed to do so.
So, don't let anyone feed you any BS about how bad the SCHWINN might be, or how much better a TREK or other make is. Its all pure BS. As a rider, will you notice the 5-6 pounds of difference in overall weight? NO. The current 700c SCHWINN road bikes all have the SAME components as the major brands, Shimano Tourney or Altus derailleurs, often ProMax brakes, (as mine does) etc.
If all you want to do is throw $200-$400 extra away, go get yourself a TREK or something, and feel all warm and fuzzy because you THINK you got a better machine. If you want a solid, rideable, reliable bike for $300 or less, buy the SCHWINN and quit worrying about your image. In fact, I am so confident about my Varsity, that it is going to be ridden from Phoenix, AZ to Washington D.C., departing around April 15, 2013. The planned rout is over 4,200 miles, and I am 110% confident in the bike making the trip without a hitch. Heck, the thing as already essentially made the trip... 4 times!!!!
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Originally Posted by martyphoto View Post
Here's some information for you, and for all those who are snarky about the bike from the "toy" section of Walmart:
I have the EXACT bike you linked to, the silver and yellow Varsity. I purchased it at my local Walmart in March of 2010 (its actually an 09 model). Since that time, this "toy" bike has racked up nearly 18,000 miles.. yes, EIGHTEEN THOUSAND.. with absolutely NO PROBLEMS! I ride it as transportation daily, a 26 mile RT commute to work and back, 5 days a week, plus an average of 25-30 per day on my days off. In appropriate weathe, it is not uncommon for me to take a 50-60 mile ride, just because I can, and because I truly enjoy riding this bike. By choice, I did convert it to a flat road bar (easier on my back), and I did go to MUCH better Continental Gatorskin tires after the stock tires wore out around 3,000 miles. 2 sets of tires, one set of brake pads, plus the bar replacement, is ALL I have done to this bike. Even with the high mileage, it still has the original chain and shift cables.
The reality is that even those fancy-schmancy TREK, Cannondale, Diamondback, GT, and other bikes are all made in... wait for it... CHINA. In fact, I have been to several of the local Phoenix bike shops and challenged them to show me one of their "high end" bikes that has gone 18,000 miles with no breakdowns, and they have all failed to do so.
So, don't let anyone feed you any BS about how bad the SCHWINN might be, or how much better a TREK or other make is. Its all pure BS. As a rider, will you notice the 5-6 pounds of difference in overall weight? NO. The current 700c SCHWINN road bikes all have the SAME components as the major brands, Shimano Tourney or Altus derailleurs, often ProMax brakes, (as mine does) etc.
If all you want to do is throw $200-$400 extra away, go get yourself a TREK or something, and feel all warm and fuzzy because you THINK you got a better machine. If you want a solid, rideable, reliable bike for $300 or less, buy the SCHWINN and quit worrying about your image. In fact, I am so confident about my Varsity, that it is going to be ridden from Phoenix, AZ to Washington D.C., departing around April 15, 2013. The planned rout is over 4,200 miles, and I am 110% confident in the bike making the trip without a hitch. Heck, the thing as already essentially made the trip... 4 times!!!!
+1 OMG, I dont have near the mileage you do, but I bought my bike used and missing the shifter for the front derailleur for a pittance and it has been phenomenal. It came with upgraded bars and a new seat and I love riding it every day. I am closing in on 700 miles since I bought it a month and a half ago and it has been nothing less than reliable and is as fast or faster than the LBS bikes that I see running around town. As an entry level bike/commuter this is every inch the best bang for the buck.
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So is the bike a piece of crap because its a piece of crap or are people criticizing it because its not a top of the line, with the kitchen sink included, bike that cost more than a new car bike? Can't a bike be inexpensive and decent at the same time?

Not everyone can afford or save $500 for a bike shop bike and some of the used bikes on Craigslist look like they are being held together with crazy glue and duct tape. I say rock on if you can afford a higher end bike, but if you can't there are alternatives.

I have the bike in question on order and it should arrive next week. I am sure it will last a long time if I take care of it. I already have a Cadillac mountain bike. It could probably use a tune up but its fine otherwise. I think some of the response have more to do with snobbery than with the actual merits of the bike. I will report back if the bike turns out to be garbage.
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Originally Posted by FR4NCH1SE View Post
Incorrect? GO TO THE FRICKEN WALMART WEBSITE!!!!!! it plainly says Alluminum 6061 frame, the same as the GMC Denali, which btw WALMART SELLS!! BOTH BIKES!! they are the same b.s. the only difference is that the Schwinn has way better brakes.
Sorry to revive such an old thread, but this quote is really dumb and I had to correct it. For someone who is a "senior member" and being a total snob, you should know what Aluminum 6061 is. It's not a type of frame, it's a type of metal. Just like there is Steel, Stainless Steel, Tool Steel, etc. there are different types of Aluminum. 6061 is one of the better types of Aluminum (it's the same type that Specialized makes their frames out of).

6061 aluminium alloy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I found this thread because I bought one of these bikes, and it is a great bike for the money. Buy it, beat it up, replace parts with better parts when they die, and enjoy your cheap ride. My other bike is a Specialized Crosstrail with all the trimmings (hydro disc brakes, etc.) and I love this cheap stupid Schwinn. Very light, a lot of fun. Don't let internet bike snobs who don't even know what 6061 Aluminum is shame you out of a great ride.
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Four times this thread has been brought back from the dead. Ye gads.
And now a fifth time. What an irrepressible thread!
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Sorry to revive such an old thread, but this quote is really dumb and I had to correct it.
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Originally Posted by WillWeld4Beer View Post
Sorry to revive such an old thread, but this quote is really dumb and I had to correct it. For someone who is a "senior member" and being a total snob, you should know what Aluminum 6061 is. It's not a type of frame, it's a type of metal. Just like there is Steel, Stainless Steel, Tool Steel, etc. there are different types of Aluminum. 6061 is one of the better types of Aluminum (it's the same type that Specialized makes their frames out of).

6061 aluminium alloy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I found this thread because I bought one of these bikes, and it is a great bike for the money. Buy it, beat it up, replace parts with better parts when they die, and enjoy your cheap ride. My other bike is a Specialized Crosstrail with all the trimmings (hydro disc brakes, etc.) and I love this cheap stupid Schwinn. Very light, a lot of fun. Don't let internet bike snobs who don't even know what 6061 Aluminum is shame you out of a great ride.
You do realize that the person you are attempting to 'correct' had only been a member here for ~30 days when the post you quoted was originally posted- back in 2009.... and that was an acceptable form of short-hand that you are wanting to correct. Example: "___ frame" is "a frame made out of ___ material".
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Originally Posted by fish0n View Post
Well have deiced instead of fixing my Fisher Tarpon Mt. bike, to convert to a road bike. A Mt. bike with slicks is ok, but I'm wanting a bike with more speed. I'm planing on going with an older used model for now. I though I would do some research on the older road bikes, so I googled Schwinn varsity, and up popped this link : 700c Men's Schwinn Varsity Road Bike: Kids' Bikes & Riding Toys : Walmart.com (Please read specifications)

I'm wondering what you all think of it? I know that store bought bikes are junk, but maybe this one is the exception? If going with this bike would be a bad idea, what would be some older road bikes I should be looking out for?
Nothing good can come from the words "Schwinn" and "Varsity" in close proximity.
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wall-mart makes me cringe...
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Since this zombie is back from the grave:

I've worked on a few of the better (relative term) big box bikes in the $200-300 range, like the Varsity, and they can be functional rides for the casual cyclist. The biggest problem I've found is that the stores selling them have them assembled by any stockboy that they can spare and they often do not assemble them correctly nor do they have a clue about how to adjust brakes, derailleurs, or otherwise set up a bike. That's where I usually end up in the mix, someone I know buys a department store Schwinn and it doesn't work right. They know I'm an avid rider and work on my own bikes so they ask my advice. I usually end up tossing the bike up on the stand and in 15-20 minutes the bike is working adequately. The new rider gets some idea that bikes actually need maintenance and adjustment and that they must either go the DIY or LBS routes.
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Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
And now a fifth time. What an irrepressible thread!
Every year or so exactly not like clock work.

Originally Posted by halfspeed View Post
Nothing good can come from the words "Schwinn" and "Varsity" in close proximity.
While some retro fans will disagree the Varsity was always the entry level and dealers always tried to move buyers "up" to the Continental. (Essentially, the same bike with some bling). Old Varsities last forever though.

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wall-mart makes me cringe...
I walked into a bathroom in one once and did alot more than cringe....

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Since this zombie is back from the grave:

I've worked on a few of the better (relative term) big box bikes in the $200-300 range, like the Varsity, and they can be functional rides for the casual cyclist. The biggest problem I've found is that the stores selling them have them assembled by any stockboy that they can spare and they often do not assemble them correctly nor do they have a clue about how to adjust brakes, derailleurs, or otherwise set up a bike. .....
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I have one of these bikes that I bought from Craigslist for $60. I thought that this bike was a really nice ride. The only components I needed to replace were the tires. (I switched it out with Gatorskins). I have a Trek 2100 Carbon road bike with Ultegra components. I think that this Schwinn bike (with upgraded drive train and drop bars could turn into a decent road bike. I put a 105 derailleur, race face handlebars/stem, Ultegra cranks, Ultegra FD, Bontrager Select rims, 8 speed cassette, and some race face atlas pedals. All of these parts were laying around my garage so I decided to trick out a walmart bike. LOL
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This thread is approaching dead cat status... 6 resurrections now LOL
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Originally Posted by halfspeed View Post
Nothing good can come from the words "Schwinn" and "Varsity" in close proximity.
Schwinn sells bikes in the big box and IBD channels. The latter entry level bikes are high quality and are a solid value. Not all Schwinns are created equal.
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Classic Schwinn Varsinentals were built like tanks... and are virtually indestructible.

Not as good as the filet-brazed Super Tourer, Super Sport and Superior models - which are nice riding bikes for not a lot of money.

The creme de la creme in the Schwinn line was the filet brazed Reynolds 531 Paramount.

In its day, Schwinn made some good bikes.
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LoL, I just got the email for this thread. Just an update, I have bought a couple of bikes since I last posted here. Currently my only bike ironically is a SCHWINN, Fastback Sport, and its my favorite bike to date. I totes forgot what this thread was about, but let me tell you, my current schwinn is the **** and I recommend it to anyone.
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Wow. I completely forgot about this one. As in love as I was with the schwinn I found an old school cannondale that I had to have. Bought it and have never looked back.
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