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Old 07-11-07, 12:01 PM
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Dunedin New Zealand has both beat anyway.

There are streets in SF with stairs instead of side walks also, btw.

EDIT: According to that article Pittsburgh may have the steepest street.
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Originally Posted by lvleph
I assumed the bottom of the y axis was 0. And I am a mathematician, I should know better.
that could be assumed because he didn't label the bottom of the graph
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ok in honor of climbing all the steepest hills here in pittsburgh...i'm setting my next loop to include canton ave....a 37% grade hill.....wish me luck
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Originally Posted by KevinF
Where do you see 23% for over one mile? That would be 1,214 feet of elevation gain (0.23 * 5280), and the graph goes from just below 700 vertical to just over 1,200 vertical. That climb around the 12 mile mark looks like a barf-inducer, but it's not 23%. I'm guessing it starts from about 650 feet and goes to about 1,100 in about 3/4th of a mile, so somewhere around 11%.
Some of the really informed guys here can correct me if I'm wrong, but a mile @ 11% is probably better for training purposes than 23% anyway, right?
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Originally Posted by Plow13
ok in honor of climbing all the steepest hills here in pittsburgh...i'm setting my next loop to include canton ave....a 37% grade hill.....wish me luck
How do you keep from spinning your rear wheel on something like that? Geeeeez....
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I want to here the report.

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Originally Posted by Plow13
ok in honor of climbing all the steepest hills here in pittsburgh...i'm setting my next loop to include canton ave....a 37% grade hill.....wish me luck
I don't think it can be that steep can it? Isn't that hill in New Zealand 37%?
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I never experienced that even living in the Sierras. My brother is a GIS Specialist and he never had that problem when he would go GPS different items. I am going to have to ask him more about this.
I have to admit that I'm not used to this level of scrutiny over what I consider to be tertiary minutia on the subject at hand. I thought that we were sharing information about hard hill-rides. You know...for fun. I find the level of...testosterone-driven competitiveness over silly things like this off-putting. I like to ride. That hill is hard to me, so I shared some information about it with people on a forum.

Granted, this is only my second season of riding regularly in a long time, and things seem to have changed a lot in that time. Bicycling was more of a Zen sport where I used to ride. It was not as competitive a sport as seems to be just about everywhere now. It seems that it has become cynical and full of people constantly looking for mistakes in how others ride, equipment/ride calculations, or trying to catch each other in lies. I've got more important things to do with my time than do a research project on the acceptable data presentation methods for AN INFORMAL BIKE FORUM.

As far as the GPS topic...well...I've not played with GPS machines in the field up there for over 6 years, and things may be different now. We used to have to use an old Trimble system with a receiver array located on a 1 meter rod that was attached to your backpack, and projecting way over your head, to get decent readings up there. I'm not willing to stop riding or driving every time that there are less than 3 sattelites registering, either.

I can't believe that I spent this much time replying on this topic. Later.
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Originally Posted by Pinyon
I have to admit that I'm not used to this level of scrutiny over what I consider to be tertiary minutia on the subject at hand. I thought that we were sharing information about hard hill-rides. You know...for fun. I find the level of...testosterone-driven competitiveness over silly things like this off-putting. I like to ride. That hill is hard to me, so I shared some information about it with people on a forum.

Granted, this is only my second season of riding regularly in a long time, and things seem to have changed a lot in that time. Bicycling was more of a Zen sport where I used to ride. It was not as competitive a sport as seems to be just about everywhere now. It seems that it has become cynical and full of people constantly looking for mistakes in how others ride, equipment/ride calculations, or trying to catch each other in lies. I've got more important things to do with my time than do a research project on the acceptable data presentation methods for AN INFORMAL BIKE FORUM.

As far as the GPS topic...well...I've not played with GPS machines in the field up there for over 6 years, and things may be different now. We used to have to use an old Trimble system with a receiver array located on a 1 meter rod that was attached to your backpack, and projecting way over your head, to get decent readings up there. I'm not willing to stop riding or driving every time that there are less than 3 sattelites registering, either.

I can't believe that I spent this much time replying on this topic. Later.
Sorry, that was not my intention. I just found it odd and wanted to get further information. I asked my brother about the GPS and steep hills. He said he never had the problem, but it would be a problem, obviously, if there is no line of sight.
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Originally Posted by ravenmore
I don't think it can be that steep can it? Isn't that hill in New Zealand 37%?
That article I linked to says that the hill in Pittsburgh may be steeper and is 37%.
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I appologize for my reply. I had just finished reading a couple of strange threads that they had to close due to arguments over minutia. I...was in a snit! Sorry again.
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Originally Posted by Plow13
doin a local loop around my place and i never wanted to go up this hill cuz when i go up it in my car, it wants to quit...so today i figured why the hell not...well after doing it, i suffered, badly....this was by far one of the hardest hills i've ever done...


May have missed it but where in Pittsburgh is this route located?
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Old 07-12-07, 09:38 AM
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lebanon school road...near dravosburg off of route 837
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