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Planet X 101s? 82s?

Old 07-18-07, 11:36 AM
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Planet X 101s? 82s?

These look half the price of 808s and are even deeper. They are just a carbon fairing but is this problematic? More importantly, do they still look nice?

https://www.zedsport.com/pages/road/r...oad_wheels.htm
https://www.thebikeboutique.com/produ...roducts_id=497
https://www.pricepoint.com/detail/146...0-Wheelset.htm

The PricePoint deal has my shopper fingers twitching. New aero tubulars as deep as 404s for less than half the price.
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Originally Posted by ratebeer
These look half the price of 808s and are even deeper. They are just a carbon fairing but is this problematic? More importantly, do they still look nice?

https://www.zedsport.com/pages/road/r...oad_wheels.htm
https://www.thebikeboutique.com/produ...roducts_id=497
https://www.pricepoint.com/detail/146...0-Wheelset.htm

The PricePoint deal has my shopper fingers twitching. New aero tubulars as deep as 404s for less than half the price.
Not a fairing...same full-carbon rim as used on the FSAs/Blackwells/HED Stinger 50s/lots of others, from Gigantex in Taiwan. Hidden nipples on the PlanetX build. That's a pretty good deal on the rims, tho' keep in mind the shipping from Singapore. And not quite as deep as the 404s, 8mm shallower section.

The 82s are comparable in section to the 808.
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Woah. sick. Thanks.

Does anyone have these wheels?
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Originally Posted by popdelusions
Not a fairing...same full-carbon rim as used on the FSAs/Blackwells/HED Stinger 50s/lots of others, from Gigantex in Taiwan. Hidden nipples on the PlanetX build. That's a pretty good deal on the rims, tho' keep in mind the shipping from Singapore. And not quite as deep as the 404s, 8mm shallower section.

The 82s are comparable in section to the 808.
I held a set of Blackwells on Sunday, and I thought they were faired, but I'm not real familiar with the construction (hidden nips?). The CF on the deep part does not look structural though, it's an "angel-hair" carbon, not a weave. The rim portion is a CF weave like you'd expect for structural CF.

On top of that, Zipp has a patent on the structural deep design, but they goofed and didn't get the patent for faired designs, so all the Cosmic Carbones and such are faired to get around the patent.

Where can you get cross-sectional profiles on these rims like you can for AL rims? It's like the America's Cup in the 80s, hiding keel designs under tarps until race day.
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Take a look here (the page loads scanned .gifs of their catalogue; some cross-sectional views of the rims, though not technical drawings):

https://www.gigantex.com.tw/Products.htm

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Yeah, all those deep carbon tubies are CF weave throughout. I think the faired ones are just slopped down CF "angelhair" because they only need enough structure for the wind and vibration.
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1465gr for tubular doesn't seem all that great, especially since they're all-carbon.

OTOH if the price was right...

I wonder if any of these vendors will do a carbon wheel group buy.
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
Yeah, all those deep carbon tubies are CF weave throughout. I think the faired ones are just slopped down CF "angelhair" because they only need enough structure for the wind and vibration.
The weave is there for cosmetic reasons these days, since consumers are used to that look—the "angelhair" is structural carbon as well, just a different finish layer. The structure is hollow, but it isn't a fairing (though HED and Mavic claim that their fairings are "structural," this isn't the same situation, not that it's any better or worse).

IIRC the HED/Zipp patent is only on the toroidal profile, whether faired or structural, and not on structural layups in general.
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