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Need immediate advice on a bike please!

Old 08-06-07, 08:52 PM
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Need immediate advice on a bike please!

Hi, I am in the market for a new road bike. I am pretty new to cycling and I have read that the best manufacturers are cannondale, specialized, trek and giant. Locally, I have a friend who is selling his 2004 Giant TCR 2 Composite. He has offered to sell it to me with a computer for $900. I am wondering if this is a good or bad deal. It has less than 100 miles on it. Please advise. It is the perfect frame size - 58cm... I am 5'10 and growing.
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Originally Posted by pianodude View Post
Hi, I am in the market for a new road bike. I am pretty new to cycling and I have read that the best manufacturers are cannondale, specialized, trek and giant. Locally, I have a friend who is selling his 2004 Giant TCR 2 Composite. He has offered to sell it to me with a computer for $900. I am wondering if this is a good or bad deal. It has less than 100 miles on it. Please advise. It is the perfect frame size - 58cm... I am 5'10 and growing.
58 cm. is pretty big for 5-10, unless you have an unusually long inseam. I'm 5-10 and I've always ridden a 53/54.
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Old 08-06-07, 09:16 PM
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Really.... would it be cumbersome to have the extra space for now until I am taller... I am probably going to be about 6'1
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Old 08-06-07, 09:17 PM
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But is it a bad deal, or good deal?
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Old 08-06-07, 09:26 PM
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It is 100% stock
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Old 08-06-07, 09:34 PM
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I'm 5'10.5" and I could ride a 58 as I have a very long inseam, but 56 is the perfect fit for me. I am done growing (I think). . . I'm 32.

Not sure if it is a good deal or not as I'm a nOob!
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Old 08-06-07, 10:02 PM
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I have read that the best manufacturers are cannondale, specialized, trek and giant.
This is not true, there are many other good bike manufacturers.
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Old 08-06-07, 10:25 PM
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Pianodude-

It's not about your inseam, there seems to be some confusion about that on this thread.

Fit your torso to the bike- longer inseam on a smaller bike is something that can be handled with seatpost height and crank length... both adjustable/upgradeable. A bike that's too large is going to have your upper body too stretched out, long legs or not.

That said, I think right now you need a 54-55, and after you hit 6'1", a 57-58 is probably in order... 58 is a little big right now. I'm 5'11", and I once rode a 58- but I paid 75 bucks for it, and it was my beater messenger bike. 900 dollars is a substantial investment...

It's going to be hard for anyone to tell you if it's a good deal or not until we know what type of components (shifters, deraileurs, calipers, cranks) are on it... not just the manufacturer, but the model... I'm assuming it's Shimano stuff, but is it 105, Ultegra, Dura Ace, what? Also, what are the wheels?

Oh, and hey- welcome to road biking!
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Originally Posted by pianodude View Post
Hi, I am in the market for a new road bike. I am pretty new to cycling and I have read that the best manufacturers are cannondale, specialized, trek and giant. Locally, I have a friend who is selling his 2004 Giant TCR 2 Composite. He has offered to sell it to me with a computer for $900. I am wondering if this is a good or bad deal. It has less than 100 miles on it. Please advise. It is the perfect frame size - 58cm... I am 5'10 and growing.
There are many many other makes that are equally good if not better than those. Of course, all makes have cheaper entry level bikes and multi-thousand dollar high end bikes. A thousand dollar Trek is not the same as a five thousand dollar Cannondale or Colnago or Lightspeed.

Oh, and 58cm seems large for your height. I am 5'11" and ride a 55-56cm frame depending on how it is measured.
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Originally Posted by pianodude View Post
Hi, I am in the market for a new road bike. I am pretty new to cycling and I have read that the best manufacturers are cannondale, specialized, trek and giant. Locally, I have a friend who is selling his 2004 Giant TCR 2 Composite. He has offered to sell it to me with a computer for $900. I am wondering if this is a good or bad deal. It has less than 100 miles on it. Please advise. It is the perfect frame size - 58cm... I am 5'10 and growing.
well if its coming with a computer then thats definitely a good DEAL~~!!! OMG BUY BUY BUY
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But is it a bad deal, or good deal?
If the bike doesn't fit you then it's not a good deal. In fact, it's a complete waste of your money.
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OP-Spend the money to get fitted for a bike before you buy anything. A bad bike fitted properly will be faster and more comfortable than a brand-name bike that is ill-fitting. I would not suggest getting a bike you will "grow into," because what will happen is that you will develop bad form and technique that will be hard to get rid of when you do grow into the bike.

Also, height is a poor indicator of size. I am 5-9, and everywhere I go, people say I need a 54 cm bike. However, a fitter can look at me and tell I have a long torso and legs for a 5-9 person (consequently, I have a short neck), so I really need a 56 top tube and 56 seat tube. This is why you need a fitting. The 58 frame size refers to the seat tube, but your torso length will determine the top tube. Different manufacturers will have different geometries. For example, my Scott 56 has a 56 top tube, but my Specialized 56 has a 56.5 top tube.

Get fitted, buy a bike that fits you, then sell it, and buy a new bike when you grow.

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Originally Posted by Pull4Me View Post
58 cm. is pretty big for 5-10, unless you have an unusually long inseam. I'm 5-10 and I've always ridden a 53/54.
Just as a matter of perspective, I'm just shy of 5-8 and a 54 fits me pretty well. 52 is OK but harder to fit comfortably. Just to show OP that it is variable.
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Originally Posted by pianodude View Post
Hi, I am in the market for a new road bike. I am pretty new to cycling and I have read that the best manufacturers are cannondale, specialized, trek and giant. Locally, I have a friend who is selling his 2004 Giant TCR 2 Composite. He has offered to sell it to me with a computer for $900. I am wondering if this is a good or bad deal. It has less than 100 miles on it. Please advise. It is the perfect frame size - 58cm... I am 5'10 and growing.
Try the bike. Those aren't the "best" but they are all good. Giant is a good name. If you can fit it now with a short/normal stem and short-ish seat post, it should be fine, especially if you're growing.

But you gotta try it. Let us know what you find and maybe we can advise.

If the price is more than 50% of the new price, it probably isn't a smokin' good deal, but one you can probably find an equally good deal later.
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A 58cm on a Giant is huge.

I'm 6"1 and rode one for about a month before getting rid of it.
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Originally Posted by Pull4Me View Post
58 cm. is pretty big for 5-10, unless you have an unusually long inseam. I'm 5-10 and I've always ridden a 53/54.

The exact opposite is correct - it is pretty big, unless you have an unusually SHORT inseam. In which case, your long torso will be comfortable on the long top tube, and your shortish legs will have no problem reaching the pedals as the saddle can be adjusted down.
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okay... it seems as if the general consensus is that the bike is going to be too big for me...

I'm just basing my opinion for size on this:

https://www.ehow.com/how_14104_determ...ect-frame.html

and what a man at landrys told me. We are going to meet somewhere where I can try the bike... and if it feels to big, then I can always say no... its just not a good fit.

Will it hurt my back if I ride a bike that is too big... or is it just general discomfort?

How will I tell if it is too big or not when I see it... is it just based on comfort, or is there some way to determine?

When i said it comes with a computer, I meant a bike computer...

thanks for all the help!
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ALso.... its ultegra...

Here are the specs:

https://archive.giant-bicycles.com/us...04&model=10812
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Is bumping allowed?
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Originally Posted by VT to CA View Post
It's not about your inseam, there seems to be some confusion about that on this thread.

Fit your torso to the bike- longer inseam on a smaller bike is something that can be handled with seatpost height and crank length... both adjustable/upgradeable. A bike that's too large is going to have your upper body too stretched out, long legs or not.
Yes, you can raise the seat up, but then you're in danger of having handlebars be way too low, which is just as bad, IMHO. I'm 5'11.5" with a long inseam (33.75"). I seem to be having trouble finding the right size bike. A Bianchi 58cm may be too big, and a 55cm is definitely too small. So, either I'm stretched out too far, or I'm killing my neck and back. You can see more of my measurements at: https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycling/331460-am-i-between-sizes-what-about-kops.html
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