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Old 08-07-07, 01:39 PM
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Road Tires??

I just bought a Trek 1500. I was talking to the LBS and he told me some ideas to upgrade. I decided to upgrade a few things but when I asked him about the tires he told me since I was mainly doing rec riding that I should keep using the basic Bontrager Selects that are on there til I start having trouble with flats then upgrade. He told me about the Continental Grand Prix 4000 but they are running 50 bucks and I really dont want to buy something that expensive at this time. A co-worker told me he buys his online from performancebike.com and get the Forte Kevlar lined GT2. They are only about 10 bucks a piece. I understand that buying something a little nicer might last longer but can anyone give me somne option to find that middle ground. I really dont want to buy 50 dollar tires from the my LBS but I dont want something that wont last too long. And I also want something that will ride decently. Any ideas or suggestions?
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Probikekit.com has a sale on Conti GP 4000, 33.5% off. Check it out: https://probikekit.com/display.php?code=Y1338

They also have the Conti Gatorskins for 27 bucks: https://probikekit.com/display.php?code=Y1320

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What problems are you having with your current tires?

If nothing, what would you like to improve?
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What problems are you having with your current tires?

If nothing, what would you like to improve?
Hate to say it but this is an upgrade- Anything to "Improve" the bike. I am not a Bontrager fan either but yet another tyre to look at are the Michelin Pro Race 2's. Check them out from probike again but definitely a longer lasting tyre that rolls than my Vrederstein Fortezzias.


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Originally Posted by stapfam View Post
Hate to say it but this is an upgrade- Anything to "Improve" the bike. I am not a Bontrager fan either but yet another tyre to look at are the Michelin Pro Race 2's. Check them out from probike again but definitely a longer lasting tyre that rolls than my Vrederstein Fortezzias.


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Improvement is relative to your goals.

I recommend Vittoria Corsa EX.

Next.
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Originally Posted by recursive View Post
Improvement is relative to your goals.

I recommend Vittoria Corsa EX.

Next.

No such animal...

I think you mean Open Corsa CX
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Old 08-07-07, 03:13 PM
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Well I could make a case for buying new tires even if you have a new set on the bike. Sooner or later you'll need to replace the originals; that can become justification for getting (and using) the better tires NOW and reserving the Bontrager Selects as backups.
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This is what I recommend (in this order):

1. New saddle if your is not comfortable.
2. New stem to better fit your riding position.
3. Pedals, if you want to go clipless.
4. Replace tires when your's wear thin. Be careful, some race tires have crappy puncture resistance.

I just ordered Michelin Krylion Carbons for my Trek. Cost was $28.80 plus 20% rebate back from Performance Bike this weekend.
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Originally Posted by recursive View Post
Improvement is relative to your goals.
+1. Are you looking for flat resistance? Rolling resistance? Ride? How much do you weigh?
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Originally Posted by damocles1 View Post
No such animal...

I think you mean Open Corsa CX
Maybe.

Point is it doesn't matter what I say if I don't know what the OP wants.
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I skimped a little and replaced my 25mm Bontrager Selects with 23mm Conti ultras. Pretty decent tire for the $$$ (~$16 at https://biketiresdirect.com). I've easily gained 1mph when cruising on flat road.
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Bontrager Selects are known for attracting sharp objects and going flat. Over and over. And often.

People have said good things about Vittoria Rubino Pros, about $23 https://probikekit.com/display.php?code=Y1071

and Prorace 2's, about $29 https://probikekit.com/display.php?code=Y2003.

Either would be an upgrade, imho. I use Gatorskins, about $27, also good https://probikekit.com/display.php?code=Y1320
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I just replaced my tires with Conti Gatorskins. Fantastic. I'm 150 lb, keep the tires at 110, and they roll and hold well for me. They're not the lightest around, but I needed something strong and durable.
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Originally Posted by tkes7059 View Post
I just bought a Trek 1500. I was talking to the LBS and he told me some ideas to upgrade. I decided to upgrade a few things but when I asked him about the tires he told me since I was mainly doing rec riding that I should keep using the basic Bontrager Selects that are on there til I start having trouble with flats then upgrade. He told me about the Continental Grand Prix 4000 but they are running 50 bucks and I really dont want to buy something that expensive at this time. A co-worker told me he buys his online from performancebike.com and get the Forte Kevlar lined GT2. They are only about 10 bucks a piece. I understand that buying something a little nicer might last longer but can anyone give me somne option to find that middle ground. I really dont want to buy 50 dollar tires from the my LBS but I dont want something that wont last too long. And I also want something that will ride decently. Any ideas or suggestions?
So, you're thinking of upgrading from a crappy OEM tire to a crappy Performance brand tire? I'd take the advice your LBS gave you, stick with the Bontrager tires and change them when they wear out.

If you want to spend your money on something buy a good floor pump with a gauge, some decent shoes, some clipless pedals, and clothes and spend some time in the saddle before you start changing things on your bike. A decent pump and checking your tire pressures will help you avoid flats more than anything.
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If from Performance, get the Vredestein Fortezza SE for $21.99. Great tires for the money, 2200 miles without a flat for me.
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I never paid much attention to road tires.

Mountain bike tires - Yes !, but not road tires, being of the opinion that there was so little difference in ride quality and durability that it mattered not.

This despite all sorts of opinions available on the 'net. I used/tried Specialized Armadillos, Michelin Hi- Comps, Avocets, etc.....

Until a LBS recommended the Conti 4 Season Grand Prix. I'm on my 2nd set, having retired the first set to my steel road bike/winter/commuter.

Still no glass punctures on either set of tires this year. 2500 miles later, banging on wood now....

Great tires

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BTW-I bought Performance brand tires for a road bike once a number of years ago. Both tires blew off the rims within the first 15 miles. Hell, one of them blew off the rim in my living room after I mounted them. I'll never buy a Performance brand tire or tube so long as I live.
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I agree that Performance brand tires are bad, but what is wrong with Performance brand tubes?
2200 miles without a flat cannot be so bad.
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I just replaced one of Bontrager Select tires that came with my Trek 1500. The rear lasted about 3400 miles. I still have the original front on it. I flatted about 3 times with the rear, but found that I had missed a small shard of glass in the tire that punctured the replacement tubes. That was about 2600 miles ago and once the shard was removed, no puntures since. I finally replaced becaue the tread was so flat and worn I was worried the cords were about to show. Personally, no reason to replace them until needed from wear.
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Sounds good everyone. Thanks for the advice. I am real new to this and just trying to get some info on what options might work for me best. I think I might possibly just do what most of you suggested and wait til they wear themselves out a bit and start having some issues with the originals. (I have noticed now and even on my test rides that the originals have a nice affinity to pick up and hold onto rocks and such) I will take your ideas and run with them. (or ride i should say) Loving the bike so far (once i got anew saddle and got rid of the bontrager basic one that was real bad). Thanks all
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