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countdowntolife 08-08-07 02:48 PM

Stop Riding You Bike For Transportation.
 
This is an honest argument that I saw on the news the other night. A guy on the show stated that riding your bike instead of driving is actually worse on the environment. He said that when you ride a bike you burn a lot more calories that you would driving a car (no brainer), thus, you eat more. I thought to myself “Well yeah, that is about right”. Then he stated that since you eat more there is a high demand for food as a whole, making the need for food to be transported. He said the trucks that transport the food cause much more damage to the environment than a single car. Then he ended the discussion with the statement that is was the environmentalist fault for global warming and “stop riding your bike for transportation”. He kind of laughed it off but they were serious. Discuss.

ryanspeer 08-08-07 02:52 PM

Proof that there's a shallow end to the gene pool - or at least the "intellectually challenged" corner of the gene pool.

This sounds kind of similar to something I read a while back about how alternate fuel vehicles such as those that run on vegetable oils, etc., will drive up the price of produce all over the nation. The theory being that there's not enough corn or other useable vegetables grown to hold up to the likely demand for the alternate fuels, causing more demand than supply, which translates into you paying $10 for a head of lettuce, $7 per ear or corn or some pathetic crap like that... Their conclusion: alternate fuels are bad news and we're better off in the bind we're currently in.

Makes no rational sense.

Surferbruce 08-08-07 02:57 PM

thats the most ridiculous logic i've ever heard. basically they're saying prople shouldn't exercise? that they should drive more to reduce calorie consumption? where do they find these people? nevermind, they find them through the big tobacco, big oil, and big auto. next.

countdowntolife 08-08-07 02:59 PM

Yeah honestly this world is doomed without gas haha.

And yeah it is crazy. The host of the show said "Now you can all stay home and sit on your sofa and watch my show!".

fly:yes/land:no 08-08-07 03:01 PM

hmmm. i wonder why he left out the trucks that carry gas to gas stations. i guess they don't polute like the trucks that carry food. :rolleyes:

yellowjeep 08-08-07 03:02 PM

actually the the alternitive fuel arguement hold some water. In KS the price of our milk is up like 1.00/gallon because they are using so much of the feed corn to produce ethonol fuel. I dont think ethonol is bad im just saying....

caloso 08-08-07 03:02 PM

Yes, and he forgot the ancillary argument that cyclists live longer and therefore drain resources more than the fatties who drop dead of heart attacks in middle age.

timmhaan 08-08-07 03:06 PM

this argument again? why does this keep coming up.


anyway, all it takes are a few guys like this to more than account for the "extra" food that cyclists use:

http://media.canada.com/6c8714d8-471...besedriver.jpg

malkin 08-08-07 03:06 PM

Saw an episode of "Flip your house" where the guy ripped out hardwood flooring and installed new bamboo flooring, because he said the bamboo was more eco-friendly.

People are idiots.

Tappets 08-08-07 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by caloso (Post 5029020)
Yes, and he forgot the ancillary argument that cyclists live longer and therefore drain resources more than the fatties who drop dead of heart attacks in middle age.

i'm going for the "almost skinny and drops dead of a middle-aged heart attack", hopefully while out climbing hills in 100 degree weather

oh i can only hope...

adgrant 08-08-07 03:10 PM

Personally I think using Ethanol to fuel autos is a really dumb idea. Its more expensive with a lower MPG and using it raises food costs. If this country was serious about global warming, we would have much higher taxes on gasoline. Say a couple of bucks a gallon.

slimvela 08-08-07 03:11 PM

I like the red herrings I'm reading, i'll add one more.

So what was the "cause of global cooling" during the 80's. Anyone else remember reading articles of how the Earth was going through a major climate shift that would send the planet into another Ice Age? Does that mean that overdid it when it came to changing our lifestyles to stop "global cooling" as they believed?

How funny that many think we have an affect on the planet so great that we can cause such an impact either way.

This thread delivers in entertainment value

DocRay 08-08-07 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by malkin (Post 5029051)
Saw an episode of "Flip your house" where the guy ripped out hardwood flooring and installed new bamboo flooring, because he said the bamboo was more eco-friendly.

People are idiots.

Everything is now "eco-friendly", it's just another BS marketing term.

From Hummer's website:

Thanks to all this serious off-road tech, the H3 is capable of climbing a 406 mm (16 in.) vertical wall, scaling a 60% grade, traversing a 40% side slope and operating in up to 610 mm (24 in.) of water, all while fully loaded. But the H3 also has another side. It's the most accessible, most manoeuvrable, most fuel-efficient HUMMER ever built, so it's as comfortable in urban traffic on your way to the office as it is on rugged off-road terrain on the weekends.

Well, someone should give GM the Nobel Prize.

rschulze 08-08-07 03:15 PM

So we all sit around, get fat, which by the way the fatter you get the more you eat to fill that 55 gallon gut sack so there goes the logic. Then it takes more gas to drive your 300 pound butt around anyway, more damage, the tires on the average car make up what...several hundred bike tires, not to mention all the other junk to make up a car. Then the ambulances that have to come to your house to drag you out when you have your coronary take more gas and need a crane operator to pull you free after they remove a wall..... We should all lay in our houses and eat pizza and drink beer completely immobile until we die...

I ride my bike all over the place and still eat less than the average 260 pound porker!

countdowntolife 08-08-07 03:15 PM

If you are saying we should eat this guy... You can count me out.:D

DocRay 08-08-07 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by slimvela (Post 5029086)
How funny that many think we have an affect on the planet so great that we can cause such an impact either way.

Yes, because what possible impact could billions of people burning trillions of gallons of fuel have?? Besides, the earth is flat enough to handle the C02 and the apocalypse is coming anyway.

countdowntolife 08-08-07 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by DocRay (Post 5029114)
Yes, because what possible impact could billions of people burning trillions of gallons of fuel have?? Besides, the earth is flat enough to handle the C02 and the apocalypse is coming anyway.

PERFECT REPLY:D

Miller2 08-08-07 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by yellowjeep (Post 5029019)
actually the the alternitive fuel arguement hold some water. In KS the price of our milk is up like 1.00/gallon because they are using so much of the feed corn to produce ethonol fuel. I dont think ethonol is bad im just saying....

Wouldnt that help the plight of the American farmer? Farming corn could be highly profitable.

Falkon 08-08-07 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by slimvela (Post 5029086)
I like the red herrings I'm reading, i'll add one more.

So what was the "cause of global cooling" during the 80's. Anyone else remember reading articles of how the Earth was going through a major climate shift that would send the planet into another Ice Age? Does that mean that overdid it when it came to changing our lifestyles to stop "global cooling" as they believed?

How funny that many think we have an affect on the planet so great that we can cause such an impact either way.

This thread delivers in entertainment value

And here's your answer. It was a theory that was proposed in the 70's and never even widely accepted. It based it's information on the average temperatures over a period of about 30 years between WWII and the 70's. If you think current data on the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere and global average temperature is based on 30 years of data, you are mistaken.

Miller2 08-08-07 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by malkin (Post 5029051)
Saw an episode of "Flip your house" where the guy ripped out hardwood flooring and installed new bamboo flooring, because he said the bamboo was more eco-friendly.

People are idiots.

I dont know if it eco friendly or not, but my buddy is refurbishing his condo and he put bamboo flooring in the bedroom. Looked good!!

CastIron 08-08-07 03:25 PM


Stop Riding You Bike For Transportation.
NO.

Cromulent 08-08-07 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by countdowntolife (Post 5029111)
If you are saying we should eat this guy... You can count me out.:D

No, no. We have to turn him into fuel. Of course that would raise the price of Soylent Green. But so be it.

fly:yes/land:no 08-08-07 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by slimvela (Post 5029086)
I like the red herrings I'm reading, i'll add one more.

So what was the "cause of global cooling" during the 80's. Anyone else remember reading articles of how the Earth was going through a major climate shift that would send the planet into another Ice Age? Does that mean that overdid it when it came to changing our lifestyles to stop "global cooling" as they believed?

How funny that many think we have an affect on the planet so great that we can cause such an impact either way.

This thread delivers in entertainment value

there is a much more substantial argument that global warming is due to pollution than there ever was that global cooling even existed. from my understanding, that was based on a temporary and short lived drop in earth temp combined with scientists figuring out how the flow of water under the arctic circle affected weather patterns.

late 08-08-07 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by slimvela (Post 5029086)
I like the red herrings I'm reading, i'll add one more.

So what was the "cause of global cooling" during the 80's. Anyone else remember reading articles of how the Earth was going through a major climate shift that would send the planet into another Ice Age? Does that mean that overdid it when it came to changing our lifestyles to stop "global cooling" as they believed?

How funny that many think we have an affect on the planet so great that we can cause such an impact either way.

This thread delivers in entertainment value

//
"I like the red herrings"

<> ditto <>


"So what was the "cause of global cooling" during the 80's."

<> There was a scientist that tried the idea out; but it got shot down almost immediately. The Press loved it, so you saw story after story about even though the idea never received any acceptance by the scientific community. <>

"Anyone else remember reading articles of how the Earth was going through a major climate shift that would send the planet into another Ice Age? Does that mean that overdid it when it came to changing our lifestyles to stop "global cooling" as they believed?"

<> I don't remember anyone proposing anything vis a vis global cooling. <>

"How funny that many think we have an affect on the planet so great that we can cause such an impact either way."

<> Let's see, we have exterminated thousands of species, changed the climate, and altered the landscape on a massive scale. <>

"This thread delivers in entertainment value"

<> Yes, it does. Thanks for bringing up the mouldy oldies <>

Tappets 08-08-07 03:30 PM

i don't understand why everyone NOW thinks that CO2 is a some kind of pollutant. i think we may need that. politicians...


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