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UmneyDurak 08-24-07 11:01 PM

The Horror!
 
After installing my new Continental GP 4000 on my front wheel I realized my tires are matching!
Installing GP is slightly less painful then my old Gatorskin that was on the rear wheel. When I replaced it with GP4000 couldn't really tell the difference. Maybe I will be able to tell now that I have another one up front. Will see.

kleng 08-25-07 04:16 AM


Originally Posted by UmneyDurak (Post 5141528)
After installing my new Continental GP 4000 on my front wheel I realized my tires are matching!
Installing GP is slightly less painful then my old Gatorskin that was on the rear wheel. When I replaced it with GP4000 couldn't really tell the difference. Maybe I will be able to tell now that I have another one up front. Will see.

Make sure you've got them installed the right way, there directional, I found out after putting both on the wrong way.

slvoid 08-25-07 05:25 AM

The thread direction doesn't matter, unless you're able to tell a sub-fractional wattage difference. But it does ruin the look and feng shui of your bike.

Bobby Lex 08-25-07 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by slvoid (Post 5142217)
The thread direction doesn't matter, unless you're able to tell a sub-fractional wattage difference. But it does ruin the look and feng shui of your bike.

I've always wondered why some bike tires are directional. Are you saying that it's to reduce rolling resistance?

Bob

UmneyDurak 08-25-07 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by Bobby Lex (Post 5145335)
I've always wondered why some bike tires are directional. Are you saying that it's to reduce rolling resistance?

Bob

Well at least on GT4000 middle part is bold, so I don't think direction really matters. The "thread" is on the sides, so maybe it has to do with cornering?

slvoid 08-25-07 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by Bobby Lex (Post 5145335)
I've always wondered why some bike tires are directional. Are you saying that it's to reduce rolling resistance?

Bob

I'm not saying it reduces it, I'm saying that there will be a tiny tiny difference in rolling resistance between running the thread in one direction and another.

cacatfish 08-26-07 12:31 AM

Directional tires are usually about expelling water. BTW: I have always liked my GP4000's.

filtersweep 08-26-07 12:31 AM

Prove it!

If there would be a difference, than it must be reduced in one direction and not the other. Truth is, directional tires are marketing BS in the road world.


Originally Posted by slvoid (Post 5146240)
I'm not saying it reduces it, I'm saying that there will be a tiny tiny difference in rolling resistance between running the thread in one direction and another.


Will G 08-26-07 08:23 AM

Anybody run the new GP4000S's? I bought them at the HHH but I haven't stuck them on the bike yet. I've run the old GP4000's for a couple years and like them. I've notice if I mount the tires opposite the correct rotational direction, the planet's rotation seems to slow down and wobble just a tad.

rdk 08-26-07 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by filtersweep (Post 5146454)
Prove it!

If there would be a difference, than it must be reduced in one direction and not the other. Truth is, directional tires are marketing BS in the road world.

The tread shaped things on GP4K tyres are for wet weather grip and expelling water as a previous poster said. As they are non-symmetrical, they must work in a specific direction. As for marketing BS, these tyres are not marketed as directional, and the fact that they are directional is easy to miss as many users have experienced, so I meet your BS and raise you one:)

slvoid 08-26-07 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by filtersweep (Post 5146454)
Prove it!

If there would be a difference, than it must be reduced in one direction and not the other. Truth is, directional tires are marketing BS in the road world.

If you have access to a comparator, try fixturing two small wheels with treads on it, apply some pressure to the axle, and roll it across the screen from either direction, the contact patch is going to look slightly different. You won't be able to measure it with a ruler but with a comparator, I can tell you if one hair is 10% wider than another, that's where you'll be able to see the difference. And two different contact patches, I guarantee you, will have different rolling resistances.

That same wheel, if I were to free roll it from in a room from north to south then south to north, will take two distinctly different paths. Just beacuse you can't see it with your naked eyes doesn't mean there isn't a difference.

To the layperson, you are going to have to accept the fact that the tire is the same in both directions, in terms of rolling resistance and grip in wet weather (especially if it's a narrow tire).

cccorlew 08-26-07 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by Bobby Lex (Post 5145335)
I've always wondered why some bike tires are directional. Are you saying that it's to reduce rolling resistance?

Bob

As is so often the answer in modern society:
Marketing.


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