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Old 08-31-07, 06:08 PM
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Need to go clipless- advice?

Ugh- finally time to go clipless. Soccer celats and toe clips were only going to get me so far anyways. I'm looking for an inexpensive pedal- I guess a road pedal would be good, but on my Speedster it's not like the few extra grams from a MTB pedal is going to matter much. I'd really like something easy to get out of- I hear the Speedplays are good in this area, and I also want something with generous float for my not-too-great knees. Any ideas?

Did I mention cheaper is better?
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Old 08-31-07, 06:10 PM
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Wide platform, such as Look.
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Old 08-31-07, 06:15 PM
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Nashbar has the LOOK FQV for $40. It seems about the same as the 3.1 since weight isn't much of an issue.
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I use Look Keo's; a lot of folks like Speedplays. Certain models of Speedplays offer a lot of float, with Looks the cleat detemines that, though the range is between 0 and 9 degrees. If you really need more than that, you might want to look at Speedplays first. I use the 5 degree float Keo cleats myself and can't imagine wanting more float than that, but they're your knees....
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I recommended the Nashbar Look want-na-b pedals. They are horrible quality. She was having alot of difficulty unclipping from them. I thought it was a user error so I tried. I was having the same problems.

http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=M1032 this is a good start. Or try some looks
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Originally Posted by asmallsol View Post
I recommended the Nashbar Look want-na-b pedals. They are horrible quality. She was having alot of difficulty unclipping from them. I thought it was a user error so I tried. I was having the same problems.

http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=M1032 this is a good start. Or try some looks

I've had ZERO issues with the Nashbar Ventoux II, but maybe I'm a natural with clipping in and out. . . I really don't see what any of the fuss is about??? I'm thinking about starting a consulting business on the side to teach people how to get in and out of pedals - seems to be quite the market out there.

I've read a TON of reviews and not too many people have anything negative to say:
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...hlight=Ventoux
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...hlight=Ventoux
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...hlight=Ventoux
http://www.bikeforums.net/showpost.p...02&postcount=6
http://www.bikeforums.net/showpost.p...2&postcount=20
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...hlight=Ventoux
http://www.bikeforums.net/showpost.p...7&postcount=27
http://www.bikeforums.net/showpost.p...1&postcount=15
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...hlight=Ventoux
http://www.bikeforums.net/showpost.p...1&postcount=19[/
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Old 08-31-07, 08:07 PM
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If you want to, there's no reason not to get some MTB shoes and compatable pedals (crank bros, spd, etc.)

Shoes might be a touch heavier depending on quality (there's certainly mtb pedals that are lighter than some road pedals), but I doubt you'll find the pedals and cleats to be heavier. Net result in weight is insignificant either way.

I'm not saying MTB/recessed is the way to go, just that weight is not a reason not to. I happen to use MTB on my roadie and have never had a reason (other than curiousity) to invest in road pedals and shoes.
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Old 08-31-07, 08:09 PM
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Look Keo. Grey cleat for 4-5 degrees float. They work.
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Originally Posted by elemental View Post
Nashbar has the LOOK FQV for $40. It seems about the same as the 3.1 since weight isn't much of an issue.
For $15 extra, you can get the Keo Classics: http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=A8059
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Originally Posted by seminole13 View Post
I've had ZERO issues with the Nashbar Ventoux II, but maybe I'm a natural with clipping in and out. . . I really don't see what any of the fuss is about??? I'm thinking about starting a consulting business on the side to teach people how to get in and out of pedals - seems to be quite the market out there.
I've ridden Look pedals for 3 years now (delta system, don't remember the model name) I know how to get in and out of pedals. I am sure that here pedals were defective (as one was near impossible to get out of, the other wasn't much of a problem) and most people don't have a problem with it. Its just like SOME people had great experiences with car company X or bike Company B, however there are a bunch that didn't. Everyone product line will have defective parts, however, with cheap ****, you get cheaper ****. Good bike companies have a thing called quality control. Nashbar doesn't. I bought a mag trainer 2 years ago, and my parents bought the exact same model for there bikes. There's worked fine, however on mine, if you spun faster then 15 mph, you would get a deafening scream that would just stay there. If trainers weren't mind numbing to begin with. I do have some Nashbar SPD MTB pedals that have about 1000 miles on them, and I just put them on my new MTB and they work fine. Either I got lucky or my mom had bad luck,


A slightly different situation but it goes along the same line, my buddy just bought a pair of handlebars that were about 70 grams heavier then the advertised weight (which is like 30% more) where mine were 3 grams lighter then quoted. Ever peice of my Dura Ace group came in almost exactly (within a gram) what was listed.

My advise, go with something like a Shimano SPD SL, Times, or Look Keo or older Delta's. All can be had for relatively cheap so why not.
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Old 08-31-07, 11:36 PM
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Picked up some Keo Sprints for $75.30 at PBK- only seven sets left. Problem solved (once they get here).

http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=A8051
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Originally Posted by asmallsol View Post
I've ridden Look pedals for 3 years now (delta system, don't remember the model name) I know how to get in and out of pedals. I am sure that here pedals were defective (as one was near impossible to get out of, the other wasn't much of a problem) and most people don't have a problem with it.
Possibly they were defective as I haven't heard too many people complain. I am sure there are some negative reviews on LOOKs as well, but I'll agree that LOOK probably puts out fewer defective pedals than the re-badged Nashbars.

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Its just like SOME people had great experiences with car company X or bike Company B, however there are a bunch that didn't.
Huh?

Originally Posted by asmallsol View Post
Everyone product line will have defective parts, however, with cheap ****, you get cheaper ****. Good bike companies have a thing called quality control. Nashbar doesn't.
I agree that every product line will have defective parts, but I don't necessarily agree that cheaper means it is junk or even more so, more expensive means it is better - it simply doesn't work that way. There are things out there called values and values can be had with a bit of searching. Also, maybe Nashbar should inspect what it sells a bit better but to the best of my knowledge - they don't manufacture their own stuff. The Ventoux pedals are Wellgos or at least made in the same factory in Taiwan.

Originally Posted by asmallsol View Post
I bought a mag trainer 2 years ago, and my parents bought the exact same model for there bikes. There's worked fine, however on mine, if you spun faster then 15 mph, you would get a deafening scream that would just stay there. If trainers weren't mind numbing to begin with. I do have some Nashbar SPD MTB pedals that have about 1000 miles on them, and I just put them on my new MTB and they work fine. Either I got lucky or my mom had bad luck,
Sorry to hear about the trainer. As for the SPDs, I have a buddy that has some Nashbar MTB pedals and has had them for YEARS. Ridden just about every kind of trail you could imagine, put probably 5 times the miles on them as you have on yours and has had ZERO problems. I hope you get the same longevity and enjoyment as he has with his.


Originally Posted by asmallsol View Post
A slightly different situation but it goes along the same line, my buddy just bought a pair of handlebars that were about 70 grams heavier then the advertised weight (which is like 30% more) where mine were 3 grams lighter then quoted. Ever peice of my Dura Ace group came in almost exactly (within a gram) what was listed.
That is ****ty, I'd be pissed too!

Originally Posted by asmallsol View Post
My advise, go with something like a Shimano SPD SL, Times, or Look Keo or older Delta's. All can be had for relatively cheap so why not.
To me, it depends on if someone KNOWS they want clipless or if they just want to give them a shot. I picked my pedals up on sale for $25. I wasn't sure if I'd like them and I couldn't be happier to: 1) go clipless and 2) have purchased these pedals that work just as they should for such a bargain. My ONLY gripe is they are a bit heavy, but they are fine for now.

To each his/her own. Just trying to offer advice from a different point of view.
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Old 09-01-07, 08:16 AM
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I wear hair clips, by speedplay...
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i made the transition from clips to clipless about 1.5 years ago after 40 years of using toe clips. speedplay was my choice and i have to say i really like their pedals! i use x2's with great float. and they have great customer support! just my opinion!
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I'd skip the cheap part and treat your knees right. Speedplay Light Action...lots of float and easiest to clip and unclip. I think they are medium priced...
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can't beat PBK these days for good pedal prices...not to mention free shipping.
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I love my crank bros pedals. ~$40-50 on ebay.
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I switched to clipless about a year ago. My LBS showed me all options but suggested I may want to consider the Look Keos. I got the Keo Carbons and they have been great for me.
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Look pedals have a maximum of 9 degrees of float, speedplays models go up to 35 degrees so keep that in mind as well.

I switched from SPD's recently to speedplay frogs and the difference is amazing; my right knee no longer hurts and I notice my foot taking advantage of the float.
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If the Keos give me problems, I'll try the Speedplays, but I imagine 9 degrees max should work. Worst case scenario I shouldn't lose too much reselling Keo Sprints I only paid $75 shipped for. I would like Speedplays, they just cost too much to justify starting with.

Thanks for all the advice.
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Love my Look 396s. Adjustable float.
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To me, it depends on if someone KNOWS they want clipless or if they just want to give them a shot. I picked my pedals up on sale for $25. I wasn't sure if I'd like them and I couldn't be happier to: 1) go clipless and 2) have purchased these pedals that work just as they should for such a bargain. My ONLY gripe is they are a bit heavy, but they are fine for now.

To each his/her own. Just trying to offer advice from a different point of view.
Point excepted. However in my mom's case who is scared to try new things, clipless being one of them, got so furstrated with them, she threw on her old toe strap platforms, and what a shame because she has a Nice CF Specialized Ruby bike
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I'd recommend BeBop, if you're willing to pay though. (not cheap)
It is exactly what you're looking for.
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MTB SPDs are just fine. I rode on them for four years before getting the Ultegras on my new ride. Shimano makes a decent pedal for not much $, and they'll last a good long time.
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