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gatorskin vs kylion

Old 09-09-07, 12:21 PM
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gatorskin vs kylion

i've narrowed my choices down to 2 tires...
Continental Ultra Gatorskin Folding 700x23 or Michelin Krylion Carbon Folding700x23mm

I live in pittsburgh so i have some bumpy/rough roads...i dunno if this is useful info but which would you choose?
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Old 09-09-07, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Plow13 View Post
i've narrowed my choices down to 2 tires...
Continental Ultra Gatorskin Folding 700x23 or Michelin Krylion Carbon Folding700x23mm

I live in pittsburgh so i have some bumpy/rough roads...i dunno if this is useful info but which would you choose?
i can't vote. never used gatorskins. however, krylions are great. its hard to imagine a recreational tire performing better.
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Old 09-09-07, 08:18 PM
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Get the GatorSkin they last forever..
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Old 09-09-07, 09:25 PM
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Gatorskins. I use 700X28 on my cross bike, 700X25 on my road bike and 26X11/8 on my mtb bike. I've gone through at least 6 sets of tires and never had a flat. I live in Montreal and the streets are crap.
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Old 09-09-07, 09:33 PM
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I didn't vote because while I have lots of experience with the Gators (excellent for your purposes), I just got the Krylions recently (for another wheelset) and can't evaluate them.

However, the Krylions cost more, and are lighter. They are also faster. (The latter observation is just my anecdotal experience.)

Tough call, as both are obviously good.
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Old 09-09-07, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by tkehler View Post
However, the Krylions cost more, and are lighter.
Advertised weights for 23mm tires (folding versions of both)
Krylion: 235g
Gatorskin: 230g

The Gatorskin is $12 cheaper (MSRP).
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Old 09-10-07, 06:47 AM
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Michelin!

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Old 09-10-07, 06:52 AM
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If I recall correctly,
Do you not already roll on Gatorskins? Me,too!
I look forward to trying something that is more supple and racier.
Don't get me wrong, reliable is good but...
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Old 09-10-07, 07:17 AM
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I use 23mm Krylions and 23mm Gatorskins on different bikes. Both are very good training/commuting tires. The differences are subtle, and you can't go wrong with either, but if you want less flats and more miles go with Gatorskins. If you want something that feels a little "racier" (i.e. slightly faster feeling) but a few more flats and a few less miles, go with Krylions.
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Old 09-10-07, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by mihlbach View Post
I use 23mm Krylions and 23mm Gatorskins on different bikes. Both are very good training/commuting tires. The differences are subtle, and you can't go wrong with either, but if you want less flats and more miles go with Gatorskins. If you want something that feels a little "racier" (i.e. slightly faster feeling) but a few more flats and a few less miles, go with Krylions.
i have to say, when i got my krylions, within 200 miles i got a 1/2" gash down to the casing on my front tire. for the next several rides i was really paranoid. i've got over 1k miles on that tire since the incident. they seem pretty durable to me!

i bought them at performance for almost $50. when i bought replacements (which are still in the packages), i got them for just under $30 at phatire.com
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Old 09-10-07, 09:56 AM
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Used both tires. I have had about quite a few flats with the Michelins and I try to avoid stuff. So far in 2 sets of Gatorskins I have had 1 flat and the performance tube was to blame not the tire. Plus the mileage I am getting out of the Gatorskins is about 500+ miles more then the Michelins. I vote Gatorskins.
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Old 09-10-07, 10:21 AM
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I use both. Gatorskins on the commuter, Krylion Carbons on my road bike and fixed gear bike.
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Old 09-10-07, 12:37 PM
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24 to 23 when I viewed the poll. Dead even and the closest poll I have ever seen. I was glad to see the comments because I would not have thought the Gatorskins would have been that close in performance to the Krylions.

I have not had many flats with GP3000's or GP4000's, but was still thinking of switching to the Krylions for better mileage. How would the gators compare to a GP4000? I assume the gators would last longer, but what about performance?
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Originally Posted by dekindy View Post
I have not had many flats with GP3000's or GP4000's, but was still thinking of switching to the Krylions for better mileage. How would the gators compare to a GP4000? I assume the gators would last longer, but what about performance?
How many flats is "not many"? With Gatorskins, you will normally be able to wear the tire out (2000 to 4000 miles) without getting any flats at all. If you hate flats and still want decent performance, Gatorskins (or their cousin the 4-Seasons) are hard to beat. Note that since most of your flats will be on the rear, you can always put a GP4000 on the front for a little more suppleness.
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Originally Posted by atomship47 View Post
i have to say, when i got my krylions, within 200 miles i got a 1/2" gash down to the casing on my front tire. for the next several rides i was really paranoid. i've got over 1k miles on that tire since the incident. they seem pretty durable to me!

i bought them at performance for almost $50. when i bought replacements (which are still in the packages), i got them for just under $30 at phatire.com
I got my Krylions on ebay from here. 2 tires for $48.00 https://cgi.ebay.com/2-Michelin-Kryli...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old 09-10-07, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny99 View Post
How many flats is "not many"? With Gatorskins, you will normally be able to wear the tire out (2000 to 4000 miles) without getting any flats at all. If you hate flats and still want decent performance, Gatorskins (or their cousin the 4-Seasons) are hard to beat. Note that since most of your flats will be on the rear, you can always put a GP4000 on the front for a little more suppleness.
Really? Any reason that this is a given that the rear will flat more? I have flatted on the front tire in a ratio of 2 to 1 front-to-rear. I understand there is more weight on the rear wheel, so maybe more people experience the rear flatting more. It seems to me, that the biggest issue is that you will wear the rear tire out first if you do not rotate, which might be a reason to run a more rugged tire in the rear. But then again, is this not the entire idea behind Conti's Attack/Force tire combination?
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Originally Posted by jaxgtr View Post
I got my Krylions on ebay from here. 2 tires for $48.00 https://cgi.ebay.com/2-Michelin-Kryli...QQcmdZViewItem

that's where I got mine....$55 including shipping
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Old 09-10-07, 05:20 PM
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I had gatorskins. Good tire, but PITA to install and remove. Didn't get too many flats. I think it really depends on the area you ride through. With gatorskins you get less flats because of small stuff getting embedded in a tire and eventually working it's way through to the tube, but you run over something big enough and sharp enough and you'll get a flat. Just like with other tires. Don't have any experience with Kyllon. I switched to GP 4000 from gatorskins. They are easier to put on, and seem to roll easier. Plus they look kooler.
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