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Old 10-06-07, 12:08 PM
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why can't people

change their own flats? i've changed more tires on other people's bikes than my own, it's quite annoying. and what makes it worse is when people run over patches of gravel and other sharp rocks and wonder why their tire no longer holds air.
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Old 10-06-07, 12:11 PM
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So,...? Just say No. Or even better from now on whenever anyone comes to you say that you really don't mind patiently sitting by their side and guiding them along to do it all themselves. Then stick to that. Yes it will take twice as long but it may be the last time you have to do it.

'Give a man a fish and he eats for one day, give him a fishing rod and he may eat for a lifetime'.
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mainly because people don't want to take the time to learn.
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Old 10-06-07, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jpbrew814 View Post
change their own flats? i've changed more tires on other people's bikes than my own, it's quite annoying. and what makes it worse is when people run over patches of gravel and other sharp rocks and wonder why their tire no longer holds air.
If there was a gram of Road Nazi in you this would not be an issue. Your problem has more to do with Good Samaritanitis than people not knowing how to change flats. The odd thing is that I ride 1000 miles/month and I come across somebody changing a bicycle flat 1-2x annually. I always ask 'are you OK?' and they always reply 'Yeah, no problem'.

Where do you ride that you encounter so many cyclists in need of assistance? Or is this some diabolical scheme to hook up with velo-babes? That would pass the Road Nazi Test for sure.
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haha, its not the people i pass while riding, its mainly the people i ride with
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Old 10-06-07, 12:43 PM
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Maybe they don't now how to get the wheel off and back on.
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Old 10-06-07, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jpbrew814 View Post
haha, its not the people i pass while riding, its mainly the people i ride with
Got any kids? Sometimes the hardest thing to do is to stand idly by, watch, and not butt in unless they ask a question. It's also the most loving thing that you can do.
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Old 10-06-07, 01:36 PM
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Imagine riding 12,000 miles a year and only seeing 1 person with a flat

If it's the people you ride with on a regular basis and you consider them friends, then hold a flat repair seminar in your house some time.
The key is making sure they have the proper equipment, then give them the knowledge and problem solved.
Next month I'll make a flat repair video and send you a link to it.
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Old 10-06-07, 02:32 PM
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+ 1 to all that and maybe give your friend Marathon + tires for their B-days.
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Old 10-06-07, 02:52 PM
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Do you feel like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eCdIe0wdvU

Get your friends over and play this vid and tell them you will be doing it no more.
1. Seperate the tire and tube.
https://video.google.com/videoplay?do...07505892765205

2. Repair the tube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79cmQlACL6s
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Originally Posted by v1nce View Post
'Give a man a fish and he eats for one day, give him a fishing rod and he may eat for a lifetime'.
"Teach that man to create an artificial shortage of fish and he can eat steak for the rest of his life." I do agree though--teach them how to do it themselves--it is so easy and they can go on longer rides.
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Old 10-06-07, 03:27 PM
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Good link PhilThee:
https://video.google.com/videoplay?do...07505892765205

Practice.
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Old 10-06-07, 03:30 PM
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I can change them but I puncture the tube about half the time.
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Old 10-06-07, 03:33 PM
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Imagine riding 12,000 miles a year and only seeing 1 person with a flat
This is due to two factors:

1.) The loneliness of the long distance cyclist (this may be an alien concept for unwashed Fred masses). Other cyclists? On my training rides I see deer, horses, cows, ducks, geese, goats, chickens, hawks, turkeys, the occasional bear, vultures and camels. And once in a while Paul Sr. from American Chopper in his ******bagmobile (a giant Hummer). I do not request autographs, nor offer him mine.

2.) When you flat on the group rides I participate in, the most assistance you'll get is guys trying to avoid you @ 25-30mph as they curse your instant-obstruction ass. Nothing beats Road Nazi camraderie.
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Old 10-06-07, 03:39 PM
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Charge them $18.35 and make them learn by watching.
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Old 10-06-07, 03:51 PM
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Because they ride with suckers like you who will change it for them.
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Somewhat along the same lines as the last poster.

If it's a lot (more than a dozen a week), I'd ask for 5 bucks.
Not too much, but maybe enough to get the penny pinchers learning.
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Old 10-06-07, 04:10 PM
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Imagine riding 12,000 miles a year and only seeing 1 person with a flat
I don't ride quite that much these days, but I do ride quite a bit ... and the only time I see cyclists with flats are on the 1 or 2 organized events I do each year. The only time I see cyclists at all are on the 1 or 2 organized events I do each year.

As for the OP, start charging for the equipment (i.e. tubes) and labour. I sold 2 tubes on one of my organized events this past year.
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...camels...
???
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???
Yes, camels. Correct.
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Originally Posted by jpbrew814 View Post
why can't people change their own flats?
i ask myself this question every time a rider who looks like they know what they are doing comes into my shop and asks us to fix their flat.
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change their own flats? i've changed more tires on other people's bikes than my own, it's quite annoying. and what makes it worse is when people run over patches of gravel and other sharp rocks and wonder why their tire no longer holds air.
If I flatted and someone came over and insisted they change my flat then I'd let them do it while I take a break.
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Llamas. I forgot the llamas. I see them too. Real ones, not drug hallucinations.
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Llamas. I forgot the llamas. I see them too. Real ones, not drug hallucinations.
There are lots of llamas around this part of the world too. When the market for cattle deteriorated, people switched to llamas, elk, and buffalo.
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change their own flats? i've changed more tires on other people's bikes than my own, it's quite annoying. and what makes it worse is when people run over patches of gravel and other sharp rocks and wonder why their tire no longer holds air.

Why would running through gravel cause flats?
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