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Bike enthusiast 10-30-07 09:35 PM

Zero groupset???
 
Anyone ever hear of these?

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c.../b-1-9-1-b.jpg


Just curious... It's just that I've never heard of these before - try getting service at an LBS!!!:eek:

redtires 10-30-07 09:42 PM

I had not actually heard of "Zero" itself, nor was I ever aware of any components, but here is their website: http://www.zerocomponents.com/index.html

Apparently, they are the distributor for Lightweight wheels in North America as well. Not a whole lot of info on the site, but worth a gander.

jccaclimber 10-30-07 10:18 PM

I think I saw them at interbike. I did not however stop by as there didn't seem to be much buzz and I thought it looked awfully Shimano like. Now, with the disclaimer that I really don't know anything about them, it would be interesting if there were another good shifting setup out there.

grahny 10-30-07 10:29 PM

Looks like Sampson's new group to me:

http://www.velonews.com/tech/report/...s/13598.0.html

nitropowered 10-30-07 10:41 PM

Its Sampson/Sturmey Archer's group.

the beef 10-31-07 12:10 AM

Interesting.

frischtr 10-31-07 12:24 AM

Why no DA compatibility?

yellowjeep 10-31-07 12:24 AM

whats the extra little lever/button thing on the shifter?

edit:
http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/9412/b191bjt7.jpg

frischtr 10-31-07 12:26 AM


Originally Posted by yellowjeep (Post 5550635)
whats the extra little lever/button thing on the shifter?

Looks like the brake lever does not swing to the side like Shimano, but shifts are done with the high and low shift buttons...

yellowjeep 10-31-07 12:29 AM

hum... i dont know how i feel about that.

Bike enthusiast 10-31-07 12:30 AM

^^^ Yep, just need to read the description in the picture more carefully.... Not sure about the lack of DA compatibility. Are Ultegra and DA that different? I didn't think so.

yellowjeep 10-31-07 12:31 AM

tada.. i am stupid as usual. I do really like the look of this SA/sampson/zero/whatever eles group

frischtr 10-31-07 12:31 AM


Originally Posted by Bike enthusiast (Post 5550650)
^^^ Yep, just need to read the description in the picture more carefully.... Not sure about the lack of DA compatibility. Are Ultegra and DA that different? I didn't think so.

It says Shimano compatibility: Ultegra, 105... Why no Dura Ace compatibility? Aren't they functionally the same?

Bike enthusiast 10-31-07 12:34 AM

I could get a cost estimate for the group.... I'll post it later...

Bike enthusiast 10-31-07 12:35 AM


Originally Posted by frischtr (Post 5550657)
It says Shimano compatibility: Ultegra, 105... Why no Dura Ace compatibility? Aren't they functionally the same?

Yeah... That's what I mean, I don't get why they didn't list it... Maybe it's too obvious??? I'll ask about that too.

yellowjeep 10-31-07 12:40 AM

YES def price quote. is quality going to carry it?

thedips 10-31-07 01:30 AM

looks cool.. id try it out after they work some bugs out and the price is right...

Bike enthusiast 10-31-07 09:07 AM

Agreed, I don't think I would get one immediately - even if it was cheap. No one seems to stock them and its reliability is totally unkown to most of the cycling community if not all.

halocon 10-31-07 09:25 AM

i think im in love with the carbon design handle bar tape they have on the site.

voltman 10-31-07 09:29 AM

He/they should have hidden the cables.

slimvela 10-31-07 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by yellowjeep (Post 5550675)
YES def price quote. is quality going to carry it?

+1

Just finished up the re-finish stage on my current build. Next step, Groupset acquisition after the holidays.

MichaelW 10-31-07 12:09 PM

The Sturmey Archer groupset is Sunrace Drive-N. Is there any connection to there Sampson gruppo?

Bike enthusiast 11-01-07 11:55 AM

Ok, just got some pics and a price quote:


Price: $274


http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...6/PICT3412.jpg



http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...6/PICT3417.jpg



http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...6/PICT3414.jpg




http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...6/PICT3416.jpg




http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...6/PICT3415.jpg



She (contact) failed to mention the DA compatibility in her reply.... Oh well.... I could ask here again also about cables, braze on/clip on, or any other questions you have.

Thanks,
BE

Bike enthusiast 11-01-07 11:56 AM

The decals look like stickers, didn't take the pic myself so no complaints please ;)

DocRay 11-01-07 12:00 PM

This groupset is appearing under several names, including Sampson. It's made in Taiwan and is being rebadged into at least four different names.
The advantage is price, but a French magazine tested the group and said it was good for entry level, but not near the quality of Campy or Shimano. They equated it with Sora and Mirage. they criticized the triggers as awkward and too complex.
It is rebuidable.

It's very difficult to come out with a new shifter, the trick is not to make a better shifter, but to avoid the plethora of patents by Campagnolo and Shimano.


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