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Sit-bone measurement and the Toupe

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Old 10-31-07, 07:29 AM
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Sit-bone measurement and the Toupe

Anyone know how the large Toupe size (143mm) is measured? Is the 143 the width of the sit-bones or the edge-edge width of the saddle? I've done a half-assed measurement (no pun, and not literal, I measured my whole ass) and came up with about 140mm C-C of my sit bones. If anyone here is riding a Toupe (or Alias), could you tell me what your sit bone and saddle widths are?

Right now I'm riding an old Selle Italia Turbo from somewhere in the dark recesses of the 90s and after a longish ride it feels like the devil has been punching my taint for an hour. Oddly enough, that's having an negative effect on my desire to ride.
 
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Old 10-31-07, 07:43 AM
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I tried measuring myself and came up with a different measurement every time. And then like you wasn't sure where to go from there. Ended up just going into my lbs where they have the Specialized sit-bone-measurematic device. It slices, it dices, and it tells you exactly what size seat you need. Cost to use the device is $150 but the seat is free! Woohoo!
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Only problem is sometimes the fancy dancy piece of foam tells you that you should be on a 143, but after an hour on the saddle your butt tells you something different...In my case I swapped to the thinner 130 and I've been happy since...
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I just got the alias in 155(without Specialized measurement) and the actual saddle width is a little wider.

It looks flippin' huge.

I probably should've gone with a 143mm.
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I used the official Specialized ass-meter to get the correct size and still found it to be a very uncomfortable saddle. The concept seems to make intuitive sense but it sure didn't work for me. I am now riding a Fizik Arione.
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Originally Posted by rbart4506 View Post
Only problem is sometimes the fancy dancy piece of foam tells you that you should be on a 143, but after an hour on the saddle your butt tells you something different...In my case I swapped to the thinner 130 and I've been happy since...

It was the same for me. My 130mm Toupe is the best saddle I've used so far.
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I am now riding a Fizik Arione.
That's my 2nd choice, but the width is listed as 132mm. I'm afraid my wide ass can't handle that. I guess I'll just have to go get my ass measured. What didn't you like about the Toupe, by the way?
 
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Only problem is sometimes the fancy dancy piece of foam tells you that you should be on a 143, but after an hour on the saddle your butt tells you something different...In my case I swapped to the thinner 130 and I've been happy since...
What kind of problems were you having w/ the wider saddle?

The main reason I'm looking at the Toupe is the wide, flat sit bone section. I'm comfortable as all get out on my Brooks B17 as long as I don't try to get aero, then the taint punching devil comes to visit. I'm trying to find something similar for my road bike that'll let me get down into the drops comfortably.
 
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The foam told me I needed a 130. That's what I got and my sit bones are definitely supporting my weight with no pressure elsewhere.

But i guess even if your sit bones are in the correct spot on the saddle, that doesn't mean that one saddle is the right one for you. But at least you'll have an idea of what size you need when trying others.
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"That's my 2nd choice, but the width is listed as 132mm. I'm afraid my wide ass can't handle that. I guess I'll just have to go get my ass measured. What didn't you like about the Toupe, by the way? "

I don't think your measured width has anything to do with saddle comfort. By the width measurement, the Arione should be way to narrow for me but it is the best saddle I have ever tried.

You can't take a measurement and get fit for a good saddle. It just doesn't work like that. It sounds good though in an advertisement. I learned that the hard way with Specialized saddles. Finding a good saddle is unfortunately a trial and error process (not a measurment process).
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I would suggest getting the foam measurement as well.
At one LBS a guy asked which I would like, I rode the 143 and thought it would be fine. Went to a different shop (same franchise different location) and got measured. That shop put me on a 130 without a test ride and it's so nice!!!

Just sad cause noone in the area had a white/red 130
Still love it
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It was the same for me. My 130mm Toupe is the best saddle I've used so far.

Ah yes I too love my 130mm Toupe. Best grad present I have even received. Although it looks out of place on my cheapo bike. I still love it!!
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To answer the original question, 143 is the edge to edge width of the seat. The table on the back of the Ass-O-Meter recommends one of the 3 seat widths based on a range of sit bones measurements. Of course you can't fool your ass, and it will tell you whether you made the right choice or not
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The stated width is the outside-to-outside width of the saddle at its widest point.
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