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Old 10-31-07, 11:21 AM
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On-line Mapping Programs Question

I have used bikely.com (now also bikeradar.com) and Bike Route Toaster. The latter has a GREAT "auto route" feature that will map the curves for you. This is a Huge difference to the former where the focus is traight lines and you have to zoom way in on a map to approximate accuracy. When you are trying to draw a twisty mountain route over 10 miles, this sucks.

Unfortunately, with Bike Toaster there is no way to go back and view or print the maps you make - they are designed for export to a GPS program.

Is there a way to use these two programs together?

Is there another program that has the "auto route" type feature that allows me to save, view, and print maps at a later date?

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Here you go, this site uses Google maps http://www.mapmyrun.com/
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That's no better than bikely.com - they both use google maps, and both are creatures of the straight line.

There has to be a better way. Has no one merged these two features?
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Then try MapMyRide. It auto-routes and lets you print maps and cue sheets.
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Then try MapMyRide. It auto-routes and lets you print maps and cue sheets.

I have been using MapMyRide for a while now and can not find a way to print a decent map(s). On screen you can zoom in/out, view markers (including mileage markers), etc. but I can not find a way to print a detailed map. Anyone know how?
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Maybe I missed that function. How do you do the Auto Route on mapmyride?
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see also veloroutes - i've added auto-routing, although printable maps i'm still struggling with.
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Maybe I missed that function. How do you do the Auto Route on mapmyride?
In the panel on the left side, open the "Map Settings" tab, click the "Follow Roads" box. I tend to toggle this on and off - in urban areas, it tends to default to the most efficient route by car, so it will turn off the street I want to be on, cut over to a higher-speed arterial, and then back, not exactly what I'm after most of the time...
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Try http://www.bikesuperhub.com/mapmyride.
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The beta version of the next Bikely update has an "Auto-follow the road" feature:

http://mud.bikely.com/
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In the panel on the left side, open the "Map Settings" tab, click the "Follow Roads" box. I tend to toggle this on and off - in urban areas, it tends to default to the most efficient route by car, so it will turn off the street I want to be on, cut over to a higher-speed arterial, and then back, not exactly what I'm after most of the time...
Then you need to add a few more points.
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That's no better than bikely.com - they both use google maps, and both are creatures of the straight line.

There has to be a better way. Has no one merged these two features?

Look under "Settings" and click "Follow Roads" and it will follow roads.
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Thank you, that's exactly what I wanted with the interface I'm used to.

Originally Posted by roshea View Post
The beta version of the next Bikely update has an "Auto-follow the road" feature:

http://mud.bikely.com/
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www.cyclistnexus.com

This is still in beta too but it has the auto-mapping option. Also you can print out cue sheets. Has other fun stuff like adds weekly total elevation gain, distance, and favorite routes. Still being beta tested some of the smaller details are being worked out but the mapping/cue sheets areas work like a charm!
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WOW! That is by far the best, fastest, and easiest of the programs I have ever used. The additional cue sheet function is fabulous.

Thank you! There is none better out there.

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www.cyclistnexus.com

This is still in beta too but it has the auto-mapping option. Also you can print out cue sheets. Has other fun stuff like adds weekly total elevation gain, distance, and favorite routes. Still being beta tested some of the smaller details are being worked out but the mapping/cue sheets areas work like a charm!
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I've drawn maps in Mapmyride and then successfully exported the the file to Bikely where you can manipulate it in different ways.

Also, the Mapmyride elevation profile you can click "download cvs" then go to "open file" and you get an excel spreadsheet of the elevations of your routes. With that information, you can make more detailed charts, graphs and get average gains and losses for particular minute sections of your ride
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see also veloroutes - i've added auto-routing, although printable maps i'm still struggling with.
But then elevation doesn't work.
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Which of these on-line programs is best? I tried mapmyride.com and was not very impressed. The auto-route feature worked OK. The cumulative elevation gain and cue-sheet features pretended to work, but the results were not accurate. Editing a saved route (e.g., to use some different streets or even just to change some markers) was extremely painful and usually did not work at all.
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But then elevation doesn't work.
that's why it's still a 'beta' feature - although the elevation does indeed work most of the time for me..
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WOW! That is by far the best, fastest, and easiest of the programs I have ever used. The additional cue sheet function is fabulous.

Thank you! There is none better out there.
If you are serious about creating usable maps and queue sheets for a lot of different rides, I suggest you invest in MS Streets & Trips or Delorme Topo. I've tried each of the websites listed in this thread and none compare. That being said, I do have to export the maps and directions to Excel, where I create my own Queue and modify the maps with arrows and other information, such as rest stops, start/destination, etc. I create the routes for several invitationals this way, and the end result is quite nice. I've never been able to get the web-based programs to come close.
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