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Old 11-15-07, 08:12 PM
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Mavic SSC vs. FSA Energy brakes

Looking for some black brakes to pimp my black Scott CR1. Just sold my Zero Gravity stainless steel brakes and while light, they didn't brake all that smoothly or strongly.

I want to get back to dual pivot brakes even if it costs me 100 grams or so.

I've narrowed my choices to the Mavic SSC and the FSA Energy. I have read here at BF that the SSC have jaws of death stopping power, but no quick release lever.

How good is the FSA Energy's stopping power? The FSA does have a quick release lever.
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What levers are you using? Campy record has QR's built into the hoods.

but...you should be using dura ace brakes anyways. They're better than any aftermarket garbage out there. better modulation, and more power than a lot of cheap V-brakes.
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Originally Posted by Phatman View Post
What levers are you using? Campy record has QR's built into the hoods.

but...you should be using dura ace brakes anyways. They're better than any aftermarket garbage out there. better modulation, and more power than a lot of cheap V-brakes.

Ultegra brakes. What is modulation?
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I'm running black 105 brakes, and I can stop on a filth-flarn dime if I need to. I've needed to a couple times...

Good pads > $$$ brakes
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Mavic brakes FTW. I've been on them for two years. With Salmon Kool-Stop pads, they are stop on a dime. And they look damn cool doing it.
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cane creek makes black brakes.
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You don't know what "modulation" means, and yet you're looking to shave grams from brakes? Geesh.

If you want to save 100 grams, blow your nose and clean the wax from your ears. Not that it should matter since, last time I heard, you don't even have a racing license -- so why the obsession with weight?

By the way, even cheapie Shimano 105 brakes have plenty of stopping power. Strange how some people will pay $300-$500 for exotic brakes that offer less performance.
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Originally Posted by Coyote2 View Post
You don't know what "modulation" means, and yet you're looking to shave grams from brakes? Geesh.

If you want to save 100 grams, blow your nose and clean the wax from your ears. Not that it should matter since, last time I heard, you don't even have a racing license -- so why the obsession with weight?

By the way, even cheapie Shimano 105 brakes have plenty of stopping power. Strange how some people will pay $300-$500 for exotic brakes that offer less performance.
mfdot

I think I paid $40 for a used set, another $15 for new pads, and I bet I can stop with the best of them.
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Originally Posted by Coyote2 View Post
You don't know what "modulation" means, and yet you're looking to shave grams from brakes? Geesh.

If you want to save 100 grams, blow your nose and clean the wax from your ears. Not that it should matter since, last time I heard, you don't even have a racing license -- so why the obsession with weight?

By the way, even cheapie Shimano 105 brakes have plenty of stopping power. Strange how some people will pay $300-$500 for exotic brakes that offer less performance.
First of all, do you have any idea how much 100 grams actually is? It's 1/4 of a pound, roughly. Blowing your nose and cleaning wax from your ears will not add up to 1/4 of a pound, nor 100 grams. Know what you are talking about before you start going all 'alanbikehouston' or luddite on people.

Secondly, Zero Gravity brakes have plenty of stopping power - do a search on the forums. It is a matter of installation. Install it correctly, it will offer excellent stopping power. Install it incorrectly, you'll have problems. There was a thread on this very subject about a month or two ago - you may find that in the search.

Furthermore, in terms of your claim that exotic brakes offer 'less' stopping power, you clearly have not done your research. M5 brakes are not only among the lightest available (and expensive), they can also have a virtually unparalleled stopping power. Quite possibly the strongest brakes available outside of the Mavic SSC, but much, much lighter.

Do your research - the tools are available to you, use them. Please.
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I've got a set of FSA Energy calipers. Replaced Campy Centaur. Long reason as to why but it makes sense to me.....

Overall the Centaurs are more powerful than the FSA. The FSA are adequate and have good feel but the Centaurs are stronger.

Doesn't directly answer your question but if the Mavics are powerful stoppers they're probably more powerful than the FSA.


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Old 11-16-07, 06:14 PM
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Most products from other manufacturers are better functioning than FSA's products of the same category, regardless of category.

It seems more and more like FSA should reconsider its acronym to something more appropriately matching the quality of products they are putting into the market.
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Originally Posted by Coyote2 View Post
You don't know what "modulation" means, and yet you're looking to shave grams from brakes? Geesh.

If you want to save 100 grams, blow your nose and clean the wax from your ears. Not that it should matter since, last time I heard, you don't even have a racing license -- so why the obsession with weight?

By the way, even cheapie Shimano 105 brakes have plenty of stopping power. Strange how some people will pay $300-$500 for exotic brakes that offer less performance.

FYI, The FSAs and SSCs are fairly cheap, azzhole.

You have a big hard-on for for racing licenses... I've seen from your posts that you are some wannabe Cat 5 in the making.

Let me as you this, big-timer:
Can you pay your bills on your race winnings?
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[QUOTE=prendrefeu;5646739]First of all, do you have any idea how much 100 grams actually is? It's 1/4 of a pound, roughly. Blowing your nose and cleaning wax from your ears will not add up to 1/4 of a pound, nor 100 grams. Know what you are talking about before you start going all 'alanbikehouston' or luddite on people.QUOTE]


You have a real knack for picking up on sarcasm, don't you?
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Originally Posted by Sincitycycler View Post
FYI, The FSAs and SSCs are fairly cheap, azzhole.

You have a big hard-on for for racing licenses... I've seen from your posts that you are some wannabe Cat 5 in the making.

Let me as you this, big-timer:
Can you pay your bills on your race winnings?

I paid for dinner tonight with some race winnings, believe it or not. I know I can scarcely believe it. I had sirloin, the wife had prime rib. But no, I am not a very serious racer...And I am also not worried about 100 grams. Hell, I'm not worried that my bike is about three or four pounds heavier than those of most racers in my category.

And you're a 47 year old recreational rider who's worried about 100 grams. (Yes, I am aware that is almost a whole quarter of a pound! Golly!) In the absurdity department, that's a homerun.
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Originally Posted by Coyote2 View Post
You have a real knack for picking up on sarcasm, don't you?
Even though you're being sarcastic in this comment as well, I'll ignore it again. Yes, I did pick up on your sarcasm - and I found it to be pathetic.
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I paid for dinner tonight with some race winnings, believe it or not. I know I can scarcely believe it. I had sirloin, the wife had prime rib. But no, I am not a very serious racer...And I am also not worried about 100 grams. Hell, I'm not worried that my bike is about three or four pounds heavier than those of most racers in my category.

And you're a 47 year old recreational rider who's worried about 100 grams. (Yes, I am aware that is almost a whole quarter of a pound! Golly!) In the absurdity department, that's a homerun.
So wtf is your point? To each their own. Some people are concerned about weights of their equipment, some people aren't. So this person happens to be interested in weight of their equipment... what's it to you? The least you can be is helpful to their interests or not at all.

I mean, really, you don't see people who are weight weenies giving you sh*t (sarcastic or direct) for not being concerned about weight - so then why do you give people sh*t for it?
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Originally Posted by prendrefeu View Post
So wtf is your point? To each their own. Some people are concerned about weights of their equipment, some people aren't. So this person happens to be interested in weight of their equipment... what's it to you? The least you can be is helpful to their interests or not at all.

I mean, really, you don't see people who are weight weenies giving you sh*t (sarcastic or direct) for not being concerned about weight - so then why do you give people sh*t for it?
Guess I hit a nerve...
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Guess you need to be more open to other people's interests outside of your own.
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Originally Posted by Coyote2 View Post
I paid for dinner tonight with some race winnings, believe it or not. I know I can scarcely believe it. I had sirloin, the wife had prime rib. But no, I am not a very serious racer...And I am also not worried about 100 grams. Hell, I'm not worried that my bike is about three or four pounds heavier than those of most racers in my category.

And you're a 47 year old recreational rider who's worried about 100 grams. (Yes, I am aware that is almost a whole quarter of a pound! Golly!) In the absurdity department, that's a homerun.
You're in Vegas dining on one of our $1.99 graveyard Prime rib dinners? Impressive
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Oh ****! Old people duking it out on the internet!!!

GO GO GO GO GO!!!!!

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Oh, son, I'm certainly not 'old'. Unless you're very young.

Then again, the girls I coach for soccer make me feel old, and they're between 14-16 years of age.
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Guess I hit a nerve...
But there is no guessing that you are a dick...
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harumph harumph

Just stumbled across this old thread trying to research FSA Energy brakes. I agree, FWIW prendrefeu sounds like a royal butthole. However, there's nothing wrong with upgrading to lighter stuff for fun...
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