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Old 11-17-07, 03:18 PM
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How far without preparation?

So, how far are you able to ride without any preparation. Just grab water/energy drinks and whatever gels/bars you normally use, jump on your bike and ride. No mental or nutritional preparation leading up to the ride. Just your normal daily routine with breakfast and whatever.

How far (assuming decent weather)?
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--->100 - 150 miles

As long as there's a convenience store and a supply of hot dogs/gatorade I'll be fine.
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Bikes are always ready to go so it is fill the water bottle- check the tyres and away. As all my rides will find a cafe- Food is not a serious consideration unless it is leaving in the middle of the night when the cafes will not be open. And as to distance- at this time of year- Not more than a 100. In the height of summer or spring after a winters training Not more than a 100. I get bored easily on the road.
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I can pretty much do my standard 26 mile loop at any time, under any conditions. Longer than that, and I need to prepare.
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I choose 40-60 because that is what I normally do. I could do 100 plus tho. A favorite sport. Just putting my bike on a train, and making me get back in one day from whatever distance. As long as you have some basic tools, and a little cash for your basic needs. What is the problem. Guess, a benefit of riding close to the train lines. Guess, you could hop a train back if one had to.
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I did 3:20:00 today on just hopping on and leaving with water only. I had to stop at my sister's to refill. Around 65 miles total taking it easy. Maybe it was because I was so close to home and could feel it, but at 3:15:00 I was DONE. I didn't really want to ride anymore.

My breakfast was 2 granola bars and a glass of OJ.
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I picked 40-60. I can hop on and ride 20 without water if I have to (although I'll usually bring a bottle anyway). Up to 60 will require at least one stop to refill a bottle or two, and maybe a snack (maybe). Over 60 requires more food/water planning (easily accomplished) but more importantly if I'm going to be away for over 3 hours, I need to arrange things with Mrs. NYJayhawk and the kids.
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I ate popcorn and drank coffee for breakfast this morning then rode 45 miles with one bottle of water. I took a couple of gels just in case but I didn't want to take my gloves off to eat them. Didn't really need them anyway.

So I'll say 40-50 miles.
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Old 11-17-07, 03:53 PM
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'Preparation'? Pcad needs an IPod.

That is all.
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100+ miles, no problem. I almost never eat breakfast before a ride anyway, not unless a SoCal BikeForums member happens to feed me breakfast.
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Not sure what qualifies as preparation, as you mentioned grabbing energy drinks. All my stuff is pretty much organized to head out of the house every day.

My routine:
1. Get dressed
2. 2 energy bars in right rear pocket
3. iPod in left rear pocket
4. Cell phone/ID/money in center rear pocket
5. Fill water bottle
6. Leave house for however long I need to. That's the most preparation I do on a day-to-day basis.

I don't ride more than 4-5 hours at a stretch. But I wouldn't do anything different if I was riding further other than make sure I have enough ¥
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Since you said "just garbbing normal food and water etc" I put 60-100, though it's usually at the lower end of that range.

On a century I don't carry 4 water bottles- I refill. I might carry more snacks than usual, but sometimes I have to stop and buy stuff. Were I to do something more than 100 I would probably take abit more time to plan out what I would bring, and adjust previous rides during the week to account for it, but really what I bring is more determinant on the weather than anything.
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Aside from racing, I don't do any mental or nutritional preparation for any ride I do, including double centuries. Those are sagged though, but I have done ~150 mile solo/unsupported rides on a whim with no preparation.
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Originally Posted by M_S View Post
On a century I don't carry 4 water bottles- I refill.
Just curious... I often see people in here saying they refill their water bottles during a ride. How???

Unless I knock on someone's door and ask for water (which I wouldn't do unless I was ill or injured and out of water), or go into a store and ask (wouldn't do that unless buying something, and not likely even then), there's no water available to refill with here. Or do you risk it with a clear stream somewhere?

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There is a difference between how far one is able to and how far one typically does. e.g Anything more than 50 miles and based on distance away from home/food/car, I will always prepare for in terms of food, water, toolkit/spares.
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Depends on the terrain and conditions. I could ride 3 times as far where I used to live as I can here because it was flat where I used to live. The flattest terrain where I live now is more than 1000 ft. AG per hour.
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What exactly constitutes "preparation"?

On my long ride days I eat breakfast, get dressed and go. For my after work rides I get dressed and go. For century type organized rides, my preparation consists of buying a muffin and juice the night before and consuming them in the start area.

Do people do more than that? I mean, aside from pumping up the tires?
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Originally Posted by CdCf View Post
Just curious... I often see people in here saying they refill their water bottles during a ride. How???

Unless I knock on someone's door and ask for water (which I wouldn't do unless I was ill or injured and out of water), or go into a store and ask (wouldn't do that unless buying something, and not likely even then), there's no water available to refill with here. Or do you risk it with a clear stream somewhere?

Well, on most organized century rides, there are stops with food and water. Also, aside from organized rides with designated stops, most areas have public parks, etc. where you could get water. If you are familar with an area and ride a lot you will probably be aware of most areas where you can refill. In the area where I live and do most of my rides, there are several well known fountains/faucets in remote areas that are available for our use.

And then there are also stores of course, where you could buy water/sports drink/food.
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It all depends in what kind of physical shape you are,I ride a heavy bike 3-4 days a week in the mornings (hard)for some 13 miles with "some" breakfast before and after,I do 68-70 miles on Sunday but I eat some pasta the night before and bring energy bars with Gatorade. I'm 39,5.9' and about 165 lbs,I consider myself to be in excellent physical condition.Now I've done 2 rides without preparation (food) and bonked,let me tell you is one of the most sad time of my life.

So, only you know how far you can go.... why don't you ask that question to yourself?

If you are going to be riding for more than 1 hr water is not good you need gatorade or Sport Drinks,carry money with you,energy bars etc for a nice pace ride,if you are just riding for pleasure for 1 hr "easy ride" you don't need more than water ( I still prefer Gatorade) and an a energy bar,cell phone..

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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
'Preparation'? Pcad needs an IPod.

That is all.
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Originally Posted by CdCf View Post
So, how far are you able to ride without any preparation. Just grab water/energy drinks and whatever gels/bars you normally use, jump on your bike and ride. No mental or nutritional preparation leading up to the ride. Just your normal daily routine with breakfast and whatever.

How far (assuming decent weather
)?
How much more preparation do you need ??
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Originally Posted by CdCf View Post
Just curious... I often see people in here saying they refill their water bottles during a ride. How???

Unless I knock on someone's door and ask for water (which I wouldn't do unless I was ill or injured and out of water), or go into a store and ask (wouldn't do that unless buying something, and not likely even then), there's no water available to refill with here. Or do you risk it with a clear stream somewhere?
I BUY my water ... I go into the grocery or convenience store in the little towns I ride through and buy a bottle of water. I've done that for years ... I don't trust the water from streams, and I don't trust the well water (tap water) in most of the towns in the prairies.
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I chose 100-150 because a 100 mile ride (century) is just a training ride, and I do lots of those each year. I can do 200 km brevets without any special preparations either, and I usually do a few of those each year too. My bicycle is always set up to go with everything I figure I'll need on those distances.

Once the distance gets up to the double century point, I'm starting to think about a few extra steps in my preparation ... lights and reflective gear, for example.

However, if I'm aiming to do a winter century, I will do a lot more prep.
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With consistent riding I can usually ride 60 miles or so without any major problems. For centuries I really need to prepare or else I cramp up.
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Originally Posted by CdCf View Post
Just curious... I often see people in here saying they refill their water bottles during a ride. How???

Unless I knock on someone's door and ask for water (which I wouldn't do unless I was ill or injured and out of water), or go into a store and ask (wouldn't do that unless buying something, and not likely even then), there's no water available to refill with here. Or do you risk it with a clear stream somewhere?
I scope out churches and other buildings (that aren't houses) for spickets, if I see one I'll fill up the bottles. I ride in a lot of rural areas where the "little white (painted) church" in the country is pretty common...and most of those have spickets on the outsides of them or if they are by cemeteries a pump to water flowers from.
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