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"The Hunt for Black Brakes"

Old 11-19-07, 02:51 PM
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"The Hunt for Black Brakes"

I asked in another post about Mavic SSCs vs. FSA Energys. I have gathered that the SSCs have raging stopping power which is good, no quick release lever, which is a negative but no big deal if you don't use anything wider than 700x23s I suppose.

The Energy's got a lukewarm response- couldn't really get a read on the quality. The FSAs dohave quick releases.

Does Tektro or Cane Creek have anything decent in the darth vader hued brake dept?
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Stopping power is mostly a function of brake pad.

I have the Textro RX__, where I forget the number. I can lock up either wheel at will, and can avoid locking them up at will, as well. What more do you want?
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For your consideration. The M5.

https://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=3590

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Originally Posted by ElJamoquio View Post
Stopping power is mostly a function of brake pad.

I have the Textro RX__, where I forget the number. I can lock up either wheel at will, and can avoid locking them up at will, as well. What more do you want?
Sounds good to me.
Tektro has really good prices.
Just want to know what there best model is?
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I can get even uglier... the eebrake:

https://www.eecycleworks.com/eebrake.html

 
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how bout Zero Gravity brakes?

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Yay way too much money for no appreciable gain with ZG brakes!
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zero gravity are the black brakes you need. who cares if the performance is the same as any other ?
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+1 for zero gravity, bling factor goes up 10 pts.
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also, i think the new campy record 10 skeleton brakes are black
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Yay way too much money for no appreciable gain with ZG brakes!
not to mention they are a PITA to live with and center.
 
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Yup, every time I see ZG brakes, I just laugh.

Biggest waste of time/money ever on a bike part.
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My LBS recommends the Cane Creek SCR-5. They seem to like the spring on the CC brake better than the one on the Ultegra. Apparently it is a stronger spring and pulls better even with worn cables.
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Originally Posted by LIUser22 View Post
+1 for zero gravity, bling factor goes up 10 pts.
another+1. Mine work great and they piss off all the poor college kids who wish they had a set. Gotta get the cables/housing length right otherwise read the doc post above.

Forgot to add: 07 Orbea Opals had black brakes. I know nothing about them other than they seem to work no better or worse than 0G or shimano. Buddy gave me a set to build up a plasma tt with. ebay?

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I doubt it. I have an SRM, so the affordability thing is BS. Why would you spend $400 bucks on some brakes to save a couple of grams (which means little in a race), when you can get better stopping power from a $100 set of Rival brakes with a release lever for easier changes. Buy some Cane Creeks if you really want something Black, then spend your money on something useful, like a coach, power meter, TT bike, race wheels, or, well, you get the idea.

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another+1. Mine work great and they piss off all the poor college kids who wish they had a set. Gotta get the cables/housing length right otherwise read the doc post above.
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You can buy Cervelo Brakes in black, but I guess they are Mach 2 Brakes

https://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Cervelo-Mach...QQcmdZViewItem
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I've got black Cane Creek SCR-3's that came OEM on my Fuji. Not great, not terrible, much better with Kool Stop pads. 320 g/pair, MSRP $103/pair.
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Sora Brakes.

Can of black paint.

Some good pads.

Sorted.
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Originally Posted by UT_Dude View Post
I doubt it. I have an SRM, so the affordability thing is BS. Why would you spend $400 bucks on some brakes to save a couple of grams (which means little in a race), when you can get better stopping power from a $100 set of Rival brakes with a release lever for easier changes. Buy some Cane Creeks if you really want something Black, then spend your money on something useful, like a coach, power meter, TT bike, race wheels, or, well, you get the idea.
Aw, hell dude. No payments on the house, cars, kids college is going well and retirement, while never enough, is growing and on target. I built my race bike up to be average light at 14.5 lbs to try and keep up with you young guns and the older has beens. I'm a never has been and not going anywhere, but a couple pounds make a huge difference going up steeper climbs even to a guy like me. Going up climbs is exactly where younger guys like you will take advantage of older gents lke myself. So, 100 grams here and 100 grams there actually does make a difference. Whether it's worth it or not is 100% subjective. To me they are easily worth it.

Sorry if we don't see it the same. I've had less hastle with the 0G's than my shimano. Like I said It all has to do with the cable/housing length.
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My LBS recommends the Cane Creek SCR-5. They seem to like the spring on the CC brake better than the one on the Ultegra. Apparently it is a stronger spring and pulls better even with worn cables.
All of Cane Creek's brake products are sourced from Tektro. So buy Tektro brakes, I guess.
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Yeah, again, though, $300 extra for .17 lbs less? Sure, it adds up, but we're talking about next to nothing.

Do what you think's best, though!
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UT dude, did you buy your srm? how much was it and what version did you get?
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Yup, every time I see ZG brakes, I just laugh.

Biggest waste of time/money ever on a bike part.
But they have a lot of stopping power -they'd stop me from retiring at a reasonable age if I put them on my bikes.
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I think the better quality Tektro brakes in black are the Quartz R750 availabble with a fake carbon finish at about 300 grams a pair. I have a set on my pedal Force QS2 and they look and stop nicely.
https://www.tektro.com/02products/08r750.php
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I have never really had a problem with my campagnolo brakes, in regards to the quick release at the lever.

I don't think I ever use it to be honest, switching from 23's (pro race2's that seem like a really big round 23) to slightly smaller singles on race wheels. In a race you usually just rip the wheel out in about .5 second anyway. I have never used the quick release.

depends if you want to run larger tyres alot?
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