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Old 11-06-22, 12:01 PM
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Old 11-11-22, 05:57 PM
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lovely road bike , what steel is the frame made of ?
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lovely road bike , what steel is the frame made of ?
Gunnar calls it OS2 air hardened steel.

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Old 11-12-22, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Shadco View Post
Gunnar calls it OS2 air hardened steel.

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That is a True Temper steel, a good one.
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Originally Posted by georges1 View Post
That is a True Temper steel, a good one.
I thought it was Waterford/Gunnar's version of a custom blend of various tubing to match the rider/style.
So each frame could have had different specs. It isn't a steel, it's many varieties of tubing model and spec.

...or am I misremembering?
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
I thought it was Waterford/Gunnar's version of a custom blend of various tubing to match the rider/style.
So each frame could have had different specs. It isn't a steel, it's many varieties of tubing model and spec.

...or am I misremembering?
An article on a mosaic bike made with true temper os tubing and another thread comparing true temper os vs reynolds 753. And in 2016 True Temper exited the bicycle industry for good. Probably was the tubing in question custom made or upgraded ? I don't know. More on the subject with this good thread OS2 is OSX Platinum and here is the quote from Gunnar's website "We took advantage of these properties to develop a whole new system of tubes we call “OS2”. These tubes let us tune the ride the way we like at frame weights not possible with regular chromoly. It performs even better than the traditional tube dimensions using our air-hardening alloys It’s not just a great tubeset that makes a Gunnar. Every Gunnar is hand-built at Waterford Precision Cycles in Waterford, Wisconsin. We machine each frame with close-tolerance milling equipment to make sure each weld is clean and consistent. We use precision fixturing, aligning tools and fabrication protocols to insure that your Gunnar is straight and true, and we are blessed with talented craftspeople who are proud to build you your dream bike.." from about Gunnar But I think that Gunnar must now rely on Reynolds or/and Columbus since True Temper is gone
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Originally Posted by georges1 View Post
An article on a mosaic bike made with true temper os tubing and another thread comparing true temper os vs reynolds 753. And in 2016 True Temper exited the bicycle industry for good. Probably was the tubing in question custom made or upgraded ? I don't know. More on the subject with this good thread OS2 is OSX Platinum and here is the quote from Gunnar's website "We took advantage of these properties to develop a whole new system of tubes we call OS2. These tubes let us tune the ride the way we like at frame weights not possible with regular chromoly. It performs even better than the traditional tube dimensions using our air-hardening alloys Its not just a great tubeset that makes a Gunnar. Every Gunnar is hand-built at Waterford Precision Cycles in Waterford, Wisconsin. We machine each frame with close-tolerance milling equipment to make sure each weld is clean and consistent. We use precision fixturing, aligning tools and fabrication protocols to insure that your Gunnar is straight and true, and we are blessed with talented craftspeople who are proud to build you your dream bike.." from about Gunnar But I think that Gunnar must now rely on Reynolds or/and Columbus since True Temper is gone
This is all just a mix of semantics and guessing.
The link you provided has Scooper providing a link to Gunnar's site that says they use a mix of TT OX and 853.

Back when the bike we are talking about was made, yeah it probably was TT tubing since Waterford was heavily invested in that at the time.
But OS2 isn't a known established tubeset. It's just some tubes that Waterford mixed and selected to make their frames. Comparatively, anyone could have selected All OX tubes or S3 tubes and used on of those respective labels.

Agreed, it's going to be quality tubing regardless of what it is- brand or model.
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Originally Posted by georges1 View Post
That is a True Temper steel, a good one.
I was surprised today, I was adjusting the rd in the shop today and decided to hang it on the Parks scale, without the seat bag but with cages and pedals 18 pounds 2 ounces.

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I was surprised today, I was adjusting the rd in the shop today and decided to hang it on the Parks scale, without the seat bag but with cages and pedals 18 pounds 2 ounces.

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outstanding, too bad true temper left the business
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Originally Posted by georges1 View Post
outstanding, too bad true temper left the business
Why? It isnt like TT had some magical tubing that weighs less than others and allowed the bike in question to weigh 18#2oz. Columbus, Reynolds, Tange, Kaisei, Variwall, Velospec, and more all have tubing that would allow a mid-sized caliper road frame with carbon fork and those components to weigh 18#.
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