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I keep reading the term...what exactly is a "fred"

Old 02-08-08, 07:44 PM
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I keep reading the term...what exactly is a "fred"

Seems to be somewhat derogatory but I can't for the life of me figure out what it means to be a "fred"
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Why don't you save some time and ask: What's this "OCP" thing all about?
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Originally Posted by HokieHooWVU
Seems to be somewhat derogatory but I can't for the life of me figure out what it means to be a "fred"
If you ask what a fred is, you're probably a fred
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It's a very fluid and derogatory term for a cyclist not meeting another cyclist's standards at the moment for cycling proficiency and appearance.

You can take it humorously or seriously. Something of a character test in that.
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The usage has shifted somewhat over time.

Classic Fred - a utility cyclist with a helmet mirror and velcro cuff straps who can ride fast enough to suit himself and doesn't care what other riders think of him.

Neo Fred - a newbie cyclist who bought overly expensive equipment that isn't set up right and a fancy lycra outfit that emphasizes his paunch, and who doesn't know he looks ridiculous
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Originally Posted by cooker
The usage has shifted somewhat over time.

Classic Fred - a utility cyclist with a helmet mirror and velcro cuff straps who can ride fast enough to suit himself and doesn't care what other riders think of him.

Neo Fred - a newbie cyclist who bought overly expensive equipment that isn't set up right and a fancy lycra outfit that emphasizes his paunch,
and who doesn't know he looks ridiculous
Pcad, on the other hand, is painfully aware of how ridiculous he looks, and his fellow BFers are never shy about assisting him in this regard. I could never maintain this high level of self loathing without their help.

My gratitude for this makes me verklempt.

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This forum needs to put a sticky at the top of the definition of a Fred.
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Originally Posted by yeamac
This forum needs to put a sticky at the top of the definition of a Fred.
Will you donate your avatar as the graphic?
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Every sport has its "fred". I come from a strong motorcycling community and the term "squid" is thrown around a lot. Similar to "Fred"- the origin of "squid" is usually unkown and used mostly to make someone sound and feel superior.

I find in the motorcycle community the people who use the term "squid" the most are lacking seriously in the skill department. 9 times out of 10 they are the slowest out there. I find its the same deal among cyclists.
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Yes, bicycle Fred = motorcycle Squid.

I may consider myself a Road Nazi, but when it comes to motorcycling, I am a Happy Squid for Life.
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