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Weight Threshold for Rolf Vector Comp?

Old 03-03-08, 05:48 PM
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Weight Threshold for Rolf Vector Comp?

I'm about 200lbs and thinking about running a Rolf Vector Comp for a front wheel. Does anyone know how much weight they can handle? I usually frequent the SS/Fixed forum but figured I'd get an easier answer around here. Thanks.
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Those Vector Comps are heavy training wheels with no weight limit. They are durable.
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I had one for years when I was 240+. Mine was indestructable.
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thanks dudes
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Are the vector comps good wheels in general? How do they compare with say, a Mavic Ksyrium?
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Are the vector comps good wheels in general? How do they compare with say, a Mavic Ksyrium?
Shhh. Don't tell anyone on BF, but there's not too much performance difference in wheels (by "better," I'm assuming you mean "faster". Correct me if I'm wrong.

First off, aerodynamic properties matter a fair amount, so really deep rims are better (neither V. Comps or Ksyriums are aero). To get reasonable aero improvements, you're going to need a 40mm or greater rim depth. So, AC420s, Zipps, Reynolds, PlanetX, Lews, etc., etc. are all more aero).

Weight is highly overrated. Rotating mass barely matters at all. Raw weight uphill is well understood. If you and the bike weigh 175 lbs, how much difference do you think 200g makes? Yeah, it's that simple.

You want a stiff wheel so you don't get brake rub or goofy handling. Ksyriums are probably stiffer than the V Comps because of a smarter lacing strategy -- at least on the rear. They're possibly as durable.
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Thanks for the comprehensive reply.
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Physics

I had to create an account, just to leave a response to the self assure "comprehensive response" that you left.
Pretend you don't know anything about physics...shouldn't be hard, because you don't.
Ask yourself: "Why do car manufacturers keep trying to make lighter and lighter wheels?!" Do you think that a pound in the car matters? Why do car makers use terms such as: unsprung weight?
Well, turns out that spinning up weight, and centrifugal force are heck of a lot different than just dead weight...yes, this requires some rudimentary understanding of physics.
Or just take my word for it: you are dead wrong! Now go out and research stuff before you post garbage online...please!
Also: Rolf Vector Comps are a heavy, but a very rugged wheel. I had mine for 18 years now, and I had to repack the bearings once.


Shhh. Don't tell anyone on BF, but there's not too much performance difference in wheels (by "better," I'm assuming you mean "faster". Correct me if I'm wrong.

First off, aerodynamic properties matter a fair amount, so really deep rims are better (neither V. Comps or Ksyriums are aero). To get reasonable aero improvements, you're going to need a 40mm or greater rim depth. So, AC420s, Zipps, Reynolds, PlanetX, Lews, etc., etc. are all more aero).

Weight is highly overrated. Rotating mass barely matters at all. Raw weight uphill is well understood. If you and the bike weigh 175 lbs, how much difference do you think 200g makes? Yeah, it's that simple.

You want a stiff wheel so you don't get brake rub or goofy handling. Ksyriums are probably stiffer than the V Comps because of a smarter lacing strategy -- at least on the rear. They're possibly as durable.[/QUOTE]
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Originally Posted by faaipdeoiad View Post
I'm about 200lbs and thinking about running a Rolf Vector Comp for a front wheel. Does anyone know how much weight they can handle? I usually frequent the SS/Fixed forum but figured I'd get an easier answer around here. Thanks.
I ran Vector Pros (same paired spoke design, fewer spokes (14F, 16R)) for ~16 years/~50,000 miles. I'm 185 lb. They were completely bulletproof. The only potential downside with this design is if you break a spoke, the wheel will go significantly - even possibly unrideably - out of true
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Originally Posted by Litespud View Post
I ran Vector Pros (same paired spoke design, fewer spokes (14F, 16R)) for ~16 years/~50,000 miles. I'm 185 lb. They were completely bulletproof. The only potential downside with this design is if you break a spoke, the wheel will go significantly - even possibly unrideably - out of true
Zombie thread. Question asked is from 2008.
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Originally Posted by MidRunner View Post
I had to create an account, just to leave a response to the self assure "comprehensive response" that you left.
Pretend you don't know anything about physics...shouldn't be hard, because you don't.
Ask yourself: "Why do car manufacturers keep trying to make lighter and lighter wheels?!" Do you think that a pound in the car matters? Why do car makers use terms such as: unsprung weight?
Well, turns out that spinning up weight, and centrifugal force are heck of a lot different than just dead weight...yes, this requires some rudimentary understanding of physics.
Or just take my word for it: you are dead wrong! Now go out and research stuff before you post garbage online...please!
Also: Rolf Vector Comps are a heavy, but a very rugged wheel. I had mine for 18 years now, and I had to repack the bearings once.


Shhh. Don't tell anyone on BF, but there's not too much performance difference in wheels (by "better," I'm assuming you mean "faster". Correct me if I'm wrong.

First off, aerodynamic properties matter a fair amount, so really deep rims are better (neither V. Comps or Ksyriums are aero). To get reasonable aero improvements, you're going to need a 40mm or greater rim depth. So, AC420s, Zipps, Reynolds, PlanetX, Lews, etc., etc. are all more aero).

Weight is highly overrated. Rotating mass barely matters at all. Raw weight uphill is well understood. If you and the bike weigh 175 lbs, how much difference do you think 200g makes? Yeah, it's that simple.

You want a stiff wheel so you don't get brake rub or goofy handling. Ksyriums are probably stiffer than the V Comps because of a smarter lacing strategy -- at least on the rear. They're possibly as durable.
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Damn, you really put a lot of thought into a post that's only a little over 14 years late.
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Was it a question on wait threshold? Maybe that explains it.

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Zombie thread. Question asked is from 2008.
yeah Iím terrible at checking the age of a thread. Although, in fairness, I didnít wake the zombie 👍
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yeah Iím terrible at checking the age of a thread. Although, in fairness, I didnít wake the zombie 👍
No prob dude. I have suggested many times to management that an old thread like this should not be able to be bumped except maybe by the OP or someone else who posted, but apparently that's not realistic.
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Originally Posted by seypat View Post
Was it a question on wait threshold? Maybe that explains it.
Wait threshold is at least 14 years, right? That could explain things.
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Originally Posted by MidRunner View Post
I had to create an account, just to leave a response to the self assure "comprehensive response" that you left.
Pretend you don't know anything about physics...shouldn't be hard, because you don't.
You got me there.................
Ask yourself: "Why do car manufacturers keep trying to make lighter and lighter wheels?!" Do you think that a pound in the car matters? Why do car makers use terms such as: unsprung weight?
I don't know...............
Well, turns out that spinning up weight, and centrifugal force are heck of a lot different than just dead weight...yes, this requires some rudimentary understanding of physics.
I'll be damned.
Or just take my word for it: you are dead wrong! Now go out and research stuff before you post garbage online...please!
Also: Rolf Vector Comps are a heavy, but a very rugged wheel. I had mine for 18 years now, and I had to repack the bearings once.

Ok. You win.
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