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Can you OD on Cytomax?

Old 03-03-08, 11:48 PM
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Can you OD on Cytomax?

This weekend I did 2 rides, Saturday 60 miles 4700' Sunday 30 mile 3000'. Both days, I started with two bottles mixed with Cytomax. The second day ride I got some bad stomach cramps mid way throught the ride. A friend said he heard too much Cyctomax can give you stomach problems. He said one bottle Cyctomax and one water helps keep the concentration lower avoiding problems. Anyone heard of this? I would imagine it was something else.
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A lot of engineered drinks will give you sweet stomach. Try Hammer Nutrition's "Heed". You'll never go back. pm me if you want a referral to save money on an order.

Do a search on here for info about Hammer.
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I reduce the amount of scoops b/c I found the recommended amount to be too much. Try that.
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I almost always have both bottles filled up with sports drink. I used to use Cytomax, but found out after a year that it's the cause of gaseous stomach after a longer ride (50 miles+). I've switched to Accelerade and don't have the issue any longer. I don't know if the issue/solution is only specific to me though.

(Hopefully not tmi ) I'm mildly lactose intolerant and my Cytomax symptom is kind of like for me to drink regular milk.
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2 bottles of cytomax for a 30 mile ride? Thats my commuting total for the day, every day of the week. I just use water. Stop listening to marketing hype. You dont need 10 dollars worth of energy drinks, gells and bars to ride for 2 hours.

2 hours and less just use water. 3-4 hours use an energy drink (or 1 water 1 energy drink) and a couple gells/bars. 4-8 hours you need to start finding ways to get in enough calories and electrolytes to avoid bonking without getting gastric problems. Those rides I use hammer heed, gells, and real food.
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I would think that the taste would deter you from drinking too much of the stuff.

Heed is much easier to tolerate.
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Old 03-04-08, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001 View Post
A lot of engineered drinks will give you sweet stomach. Try Hammer Nutrition's "Heed". You'll never go back.
All those drink mixes are sugar or simple carbs with some electrolytes, HEED included. Drink enough of it in a short enough time, and your digestive tract will rebel. Especially when you're working hard on the bike, and your cardio is too busy feeding muscles to spend much energy in digestion.

I've gotten away from putting sugar in my bottles. Now I take a Clif Shot as needed and take Endurolyte tabs to keep the electrolytes balanced.
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2 bottles of cytomax for a 30 mile ride? Thats my commuting total for the day, every day of the week. I just use water. Stop listening to marketing hype. You dont need 10 dollars worth of energy drinks, gells and bars to ride for 2 hours.
What? Next you're going to tell me I don't need that special drink to rehydrate when I'm just walking around town too...

+1. I think people would be rather amazed to find out the ratio between R&D budgets and marketing for these "nutrional" products.

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2 hours and less just use water. 3-4 hours use an energy drink (or 1 water 1 energy drink) and a couple gells/bars. 4-8 hours you need to start finding ways to get in enough calories and electrolytes to avoid bonking without getting gastric problems.
There you go.
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HEED is supposed to be a little easier on your stomach because it's maltodextrin rather than simple sugars. Supposedly allows the solution to be less concentrated for a given calorie density. Who knows whether this is actually the case, but I do find it easier to drink than most. Placebo effect? The strangely satisfying licorice-vanilla-bubblegum taste that has nothing to do with lemons or limes?
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If I'm using powder mix on a ride, I switch between Perpeteum and another, (Cytomax, Gu, or Powerbar mix). 2 bottles of Cytomax will make me nauseous. I also can't stand gels, and on long, climbing rides, regular food works best. A small sandwich, bananas, even a muffin will help. I've had so much stomach trouble over the years I have to be careful.
Oh, yeah, on a short ride plain water is fine, and maybe one bar.
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Old 03-04-08, 08:54 AM
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Excellent information, especially the response from Terry as I rode up Sierra Rd with him the 1st day (BTW thanks for taking it easy). Looking back, when I do century rides, I expect to be taxing myself and start out with 2 bottles of Cytomax but as the day progresses, I have stopped at rest stops refilling my bottles with water thus diluting what I have ingested. Maybe that's why I have not had this problem? When I go out for rides 35 miles or less, I just drink water and refuel with food once home. I tried Heed and didn't care for the taste, maybe I need to try it again. But for now, I will cut back on the Cytomax.
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Old 03-04-08, 12:21 PM
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I had a problem only with the Apple flavor - sometimes I'd get a really bad stomach ache. Sometimes I have the exact same problem when I drink too much apple juice or eat apples and oranges together.

Orange flavor and Tropical Punch - no problems at all.
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