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Pro's and Con's of Sram vs. Shimano

Old 03-05-08, 05:19 PM
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Pro's and Con's of Sram vs. Shimano

Hey all,

I am very new to the sport, and am looking for some FACTS. I've already done a search, and have gotten mostly opinions.
I know the two shift differently, but how? What are the facts for the pro's and con's? I've already read of issues for Sram cranks, and possibly chain hang-ups on the front derailleur.
I just need some educated info on what double-tap is, how this relates to riding it - and also how Shimano compares.

Thanks for all your help!
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Oh, did you come to the right place. It'll be all facts. Nothing but the facts.
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Well for starters, SRAM rocks while Shimano sucks!


Totally kidding.
Most of what you will see will ultimately resemble this, masked under the guise of being fact.
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i suggest taking a test ride with both gruppos, and see how they feel.

also, what about campagnolo?

if you're just starting out, your main consideration should be price above all.
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Dude,

Someone with more time will surely chime in with these, so called "facts." Perhaps the reason you have seen mostly just opinions is, ultimately, that is about the only real difference: which you like better.

Neither one affects your ride. They both affect your pocket book. SRAM vs Shimano. You will find indisputable facts here ..
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Fact: SRAM has hidden front-end cables and Shimano does not. Many see this as a pro for SRAM.
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Old 03-05-08, 05:48 PM
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I don't think you're going to find your answer in the "facts". All three major groups work very well and the only thing that is factually different among them is that they all have different user intefaces for shifting and the Campy and Sram stuff routes the shifter cables under the bar wrap. Beyond this it is personal preference.

I've used all three and recently built up a new SRAM Rival bike. While I like aspects of all three, the routing of the shifter cables tends me towards either SRAM or Campy, and on the two bikes I have, Campy Veloce definitely shifts nicer than my SRAM Rival. I'm not very pleased with the way Rival shifts on the FD - way too much pressure required to get it to the big ring.

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Shimano<SRAM
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To focus on just the facts:

Campy Record > Shimano DuraAce > SRAM Force/RED
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sram pros: marginally lighter, internal cables.

shimano pros: shifts better, shifts smoother, shifts silently (comparatively), trim, if you go DA they have the best crank in the business.
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Why does Shimano use those big beefy metal cranks while Campy and SRAM spec carbon cranks?
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Fact: different people think different things look and feel good based on their eyes, hands, arms, elbows, wrists, etc

They are all good stuff, buy the one that feels best and looks best to you.
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Originally Posted by otismedina View Post
Why does Shimano use those big beefy metal cranks while Campy and SRAM spec carbon cranks?
believe it or not, carbon is not always better.

btw - DA cranks are not 'beefy.'
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Originally Posted by rufvelo View Post
To focus on just the facts according to me:

Campy Record > Shimano DuraAce > SRAM Force/RED
fixed.
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Originally Posted by mattm View Post
also, what about campagnolo?

if you're just starting out, your main consideration should be price above all.
did anyone else find these 2 sentences funny being pair together?
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Sram pro: Compatible with Shimano
Shimano pro: Compatible with Sram

Just trying to make a con for Campy
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Old 03-05-08, 08:14 PM
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you can get entry level campy for less than you think.
shimano cassettes and chainrings shift better than the rest I feel.
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Originally Posted by AEO View Post
you can get entry level campy for less than you think.
shimano cassettes and chainrings shift better than the rest I feel.
Who said anything about cost?

I will say that Campy seems to have a crisper shift to me, but the hoods are uncomfortable to my hands, local shops rarely have parts for it, and wheel compatibility is annoying in racing (spare wheels, etc.)
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Originally Posted by botto View Post
sram pros: marginally lighter, internal cables.

shimano pros: shifts better, shifts smoother, shifts silently (comparatively), trim, if you go DA they have the best crank in the business.
can you really tell the difference among 105, ultegra, and DA cranks? I'd assume that the DA chainrings are much better finished than 105, but the crankarms themselves?
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Originally Posted by Edonis13 View Post
did anyone else find these 2 sentences funny being pair together?
yes.
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can you really tell the difference among 105, ultegra, and DA cranks? I'd assume that the DA chainrings are much better finished than 105, but the crankarms themselves?
aesthetically? sure.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight View Post
Who said anything about cost?
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if you're just starting out, your main consideration should be price above all.
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I'm sure this is not the case everywhere, but the shops in my area generally have a larger stock of Shimano parts than any other brand. It might make it easier to get a part if you need one in a hurry.

This, however, will depend entirely on what your local shops keep on hand.
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I think it's funny that apparently the biggest comparison point here is how the cables run. Only one mention of the biggest complaint I've read time after time on SRAM is the lack of trim, which they've solved with Red if you want top of the line. Trim may or may not be a factor depending on your shifting tendincies or if you're going with a Compact Crank. A huge pro if you want top of the line is that Red is the only gruppo with ceramic bearings throughout the drive train, BB and RD pulleys. It's also the lightest available. These are factual differences but the thing I hear from people that actually have ridden both is how the hoods fit your hands and the cable routing. What levels are you looking at? Personally i'd rank them Rival, Ultegra, Force, DA and then Red. I put Force ahead of Ultegra purely based on looks.
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Not to hijack the thread but...can you trim a Shimano FD with SRAM shifters?
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