Recent Vintage Masi frame choice
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Recent Vintage Masi frame choice
I am considering 2 recent year Masi frames that might be available to me. They are:
1) 2006 Masi Gran Criterium (Italian made version, Dedacciai EM2 Aluminum main triangle, Dedacciai Black Tail & MonoBox carbon stays)
2) 2007 Masi 3VC carbon frame
I don't have the option of trying either frame out, so I am hoping some of you can give me your opinions so I can choose the more appropriate frame.
Can anyone describe the relative strengths and weaknesses between the 2 frames? I assume the 3VC carbon frame is lighter by a couple hundred grams or so, and the Gran Crit frame perhaps is a bit stiffer. Would the Gran Crit frame be more durable and the 3VC more comfortable -- or would these differences be negligible?
Would there be an overall quality difference? Would there be any important sizing or geometry differences to be aware of?
I would not be using the frame for outright racing or sprinting. It would be used mostly for training and distance riding. Would one of the frames be more recommended than the other for this type of riding?
Thanks for the help.
1) 2006 Masi Gran Criterium (Italian made version, Dedacciai EM2 Aluminum main triangle, Dedacciai Black Tail & MonoBox carbon stays)
2) 2007 Masi 3VC carbon frame
I don't have the option of trying either frame out, so I am hoping some of you can give me your opinions so I can choose the more appropriate frame.
Can anyone describe the relative strengths and weaknesses between the 2 frames? I assume the 3VC carbon frame is lighter by a couple hundred grams or so, and the Gran Crit frame perhaps is a bit stiffer. Would the Gran Crit frame be more durable and the 3VC more comfortable -- or would these differences be negligible?
Would there be an overall quality difference? Would there be any important sizing or geometry differences to be aware of?
I would not be using the frame for outright racing or sprinting. It would be used mostly for training and distance riding. Would one of the frames be more recommended than the other for this type of riding?
Thanks for the help.
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I don't understand 'recent vintage'. You can't age wine faster.
There is the old Masi - Volumetricas etc from Italy, then California for vintage.
And the other BikesDirect type stuff.
Sure the bikes may be good/spec'd out OK, but vintage?
There is the old Masi - Volumetricas etc from Italy, then California for vintage.
And the other BikesDirect type stuff.
Sure the bikes may be good/spec'd out OK, but vintage?
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vintage would be 25 yrs or more, classics anything over 15yrs.
otherwise they're called "Left over stock".
don't quote me on the numbers.
as for how good each of them are... either try and find reviews or hopefully someone here rode on them at least once.
otherwise they're called "Left over stock".
don't quote me on the numbers.
as for how good each of them are... either try and find reviews or hopefully someone here rode on them at least once.
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Sorry, "vintage", technically refers to a "year", (it is derived from wine terminology, i.e., "vin" and "age"). A wine vintage does not have to be old. A wine made in 2007 is a recent vintage wine. It is used sometimes used a synonym for "antique" or "old", in adjective form. Sorry if the use of word mislead the meaning of the question. I will edit the original post by substituting "year" for "vintage".
I am re-posting this topic without the misconstrued word that caused the problem so we can focus on the real issues involved here. Thanks.
I am re-posting this topic without the misconstrued word that caused the problem so we can focus on the real issues involved here. Thanks.
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Sorry, "vintage", technically refers to a "year", (it is derived from wine terminology, i.e., "vin" and "age"). A wine vintage does not have to be old. A wine made in 2007 is a recent vintage wine. It is used sometimes used a synonym for "antique" or "old", in adjective form. Sorry if the use of word mislead the meaning of the question. I will edit the original post by substituting "year" for "vintage".
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Sorry, "vintage", technically refers to a "year", (it is derived from wine terminology, i.e., "vin" and "age"). A wine vintage does not have to be old. A wine made in 2007 is a recent vintage wine. It is used sometimes used a synonym for "antique" or "old", in adjective form. Sorry if the use of word mislead the meaning of the question. I will edit the original post by substituting "year" for "vintage".
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