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Old 03-07-08, 12:25 AM
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Need to swap wheels..

I never swapped wheels myself, I know its easy since I hold sufficient motorcycle wrenching background but will I need a special Shimano socket to remove the cassette or will a standard size socket work?

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Yep, you will need a chain whip and a cassette tool for whatever cassette you have and a crescent wrench to turn it. The chain whip keeps the cassette from freewheeling when you're trying to unscrew the lock ring.
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You need two tools to remove the cassette, chain whip, and a special lockring tool for shimano
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_id=4203

Make sure to tighten the rear wheel well. If you don't, it can loosen and lockup while you're riding.

If you like to work with your hands, you should be fine.
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Damn, what a pita..
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If you plan to ride, you will need to be able to pull the wheels off for repairing flats. The cassette is easy, just need the tools, and again if you put on miles, you or someone will need to replace it.
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Originally Posted by s4one
Damn, what a pita..
It's easy to do, just requires special tools (pretty sure they add up to only $20 too, and you'll get their value out of them quickly). The lock ring has a special spline, and a chain whip if the only thing that can keep the cogs from spinning without messing up the teeth.
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one perk of getting the tools and getting your hands dirty: you will never have to take your bike to the shop for something as simple as a casette / chain replacement.
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Originally Posted by Zinn-X
one perk of getting the tools and getting your hands dirty: you will never have to take your bike to the shop for something as simple as a casette / chain replacement.
Downside..... you're spending $30 on tools that a shop can do for $15. Just depends on how often you repeat the process I guess.
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^^ Hey I wear capo bibs and jersey, first time I seen the brand on bikeforums.net^^

Im probably going to let the shop handle this one, I need them to look over some other stuff on my bike as well.

I will prob end up buying the tool in the end later on. I want to ride so imma get it done asap.

In the future, I will spend some money on tools and a work stand too.
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If the 2 pairs of wheels are both yours, then buy a second cassette and stick it on the wheel that's missing one.

If the 2 pairs of wheels are not both yours, ignore this

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Originally Posted by carpediemracing
If the 2 pairs of wheels are both yours, then buy a second cassette and stick it on the wheel that's missing one.

If the 2 pairs of wheels are not both yours, ignore this

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+1 ... Ya beat me to it.

If you go to the shop, maybe you can watch them do it.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01
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You don't really need a chain whip either. You can use an old chain in the same manner. But you do need the Shimano cassette tool, nothing else will fit.

Without the whip, put the cassette tool in a vise, place the wheel into the tool, wrap the chain around the cassette and hold tight and turn the wheel and chain together. You'll want a rag to hold onto the chain.
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Originally Posted by Tapeworm21
Downside..... you're spending $30 on tools that a shop can do for $15. Just depends on how often you repeat the process I guess.
If you ride more than 3000 miles per year (that's only 250 per month) the tools will pay for themselves in 2 years. Even quicker if you swap wheels or gearing frequently. The tools will last the life of the bike or longer. I've had the same chain whip and cassette tool for over 10 years now.
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Originally Posted by s4one
Im probably going to let the shop handle this one
...kind of like calling an electrician to tighten up a loose switch cover because you don't want to buy a screwdriver.
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youtube of replacing the cassette:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=svfzcRYp7rc&feature=related

waterrockets putting on the rear wheel
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vxHXreuOLFM

Pretty cool, makes it looks easy.

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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
...kind of like calling an electrician to tighten up a loose switch cover because you don't want to buy a screwdriver.
Well said! I bit the bullet and bought a tool set this year. It has been fun working on my bike.
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Originally Posted by Tapeworm21
Downside..... you're spending $30 on tools that a shop can do for $15. Just depends on how often you repeat the process I guess.
So, you only forsee ever needing to get a cassette replacement twice? Your mileage may vary, but I swap cassettes around the 2500 mile mark (which is coming up again, arg).

Besides, the shop I go to has this secret policy that if you bring your bike in for something completely trivial like a cassette swap and you're not actually asking them how they're doing said trivial task so as not to need to bother them again in the future with such triviality, they will take an EXTREMELY long time to complete the task while you wait up in the front, surrounded by enticing bike related merchandise. They do it the worst when people come in for tube / tire changes.
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Don't forget the check the brake pad alignment. You may have to repostion the pads to align with new rims.
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
...kind of like calling an electrician to tighten up a loose switch cover because you don't want to buy a screwdriver.
You bike and you want to understand how the bike works and save bills at the shop. Get the tools.
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Every now and then I read comments about swapping cassettes, chains and tires that sound like they're being done WAAAAY to soon. A cassette will last more than 2500 miles. I have at least 5000 on mine and it has never missed a shift. I saw a comment about someone taking his chain off and doing the deep clean EVERY 120 miles. That would be twice a week for a lot of people. Right.
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Originally Posted by zacster
I saw a comment about someone taking his chain off and doing the deep clean EVERY 120 miles. That would be twice a week for a lot of people. Right.
For some of us, that might be once every three years.
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