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Can anything beat performancebikes ultegra/open pros for training wheels?

Old 03-07-08, 09:38 AM
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Can anything beat performancebikes ultegra/open pros for training wheels?

I am looking to pick up a trouble free, strong set of wheels, I can put tons of miles on. Can anything beat Performancebike.com 's wheels.

Here are the specs:

Mavic Open Pro / Ultegra hubs

FRONT and REAR WHEEL
Spokes: 14/15 WheelSmith Spokes in Silver
Lacing Pattern: 3-Cross
Spoke Count: 32
Hub: Front HB-6500. Rear FH-6500
Weight: Front 841g. Rear 1194g. (Total 2035g)

Price $224.98

https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...TOKEN=21148973

I looked at places that custom make wheels and they are $100+ more for the exact setup. And even more if you start changing things.

- The hubs are XX-6500. What is the difference between those and the XX-6600?

- Anything as good for around the same price?
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Nope.
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Originally Posted by cslone
Nope.

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Great wheels....I had OPs with Centaur hubs for a while....Loved them. I wish I still had them...
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The only thing better is the same components meticulously handbuilt, or even the set from Performance with the spoke tension checked and evened out.

I'm still riding on a set of 32h 3x WS14/15/14 Ultegra 6400 hubs with Reflex rims (predecessor to the Open Pro) built 12 years ago!
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No. Everyone should have a set.
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The Dura Ace/Open Pro for $299 isn't bad either.
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Nope. I've got 3 sets of Open Pro/Ultegra wheels that I bought from Performance. Not a problem with any of them, and they were true right out of the box. Performance often puts them on sale, and I've bought my sets at prices ranging from about $130t to $210 -- including Team points that I redeemed.

I also had a set of OP/Chorus wheels that held up great over many years and thousands of miles until I sold them in switching all of my bikes to Shimano.
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They're about the same price at Colorado Cyclist and you get to pick your spokes & lacing.
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Great set of wheels! I have had the Dura-Ace/Open Pros from performance for a while now. They were true right out of the box, and they are just a joy to ride. I did pay $20 to a good wheelbuilder to tension and stress-relieve them before I started riding them.

If I were you, I'll try and spring for the Dura-Ace/Open Pros.

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If you can find them, I would give Mavic Cosmos a try. You can probably find them pretty cheap somewhere and mine have been near bomb-proof on so-so roads.
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They are not great wheels if they are not built well. I once mail-ordered the analogous MTB setup - Mavic 517 rims and XT hubs - and they were OK, but not incredibly durable. I would recommend having someone skilled check them out to stress-relieve and retension.
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The only thing better would be similar wheels in silver (the color wheels should be) for less:

https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...TOKEN=43170463
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Great wheels. I have 3 set's of OP's.

However, if you buy them from Performance, make sure you have them re-tensioned, and re-trued by someone who knows what they're doing. Machine built wheels just aren't as good until they're hand finished.

[edit; oh, I see about 10 other people already posted the same exact post as me you mean i'm not the only one using Open Pro's? parish the thought ]
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Originally Posted by Mtn Mike
Machine built wheels just aren't as good until they're hand finished. [edit; oh, I see about 10 other people already posted the same exact post as me ]
The Performance site claims their wheels are hand finished. Does anyone know this to not be the case, or that their wheel builders are incompetent/inexperienced?
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Cheaper, much lighter.
https://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_S...ils&ProdID=610
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They go on sale from time to time. With a little patience (and perhaps a coupon) you should be able to get them below $200.

I bought a pair last year for Webster- Roubaix, and they held up fine.
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Originally Posted by Little Darwin
The Performance site claims their wheels are hand finished. Does anyone know this to not be the case, or that their wheel builders are incompetent/inexperienced?
No, they're just hurried. I would suggest tightening and truing the Performance wheels. Something that is easy to do even by yourself if you have a spoke wrench. It's probably not completely necessary, but it'll make the wheel last much longer.

I've got two sets of the Performance wheels: $200 for each set, for use on two different bikes. I use them for training and keep the RaceLite Bontragers that came with my race bike strictly for racing. Particularly if you have a Performance shop nearby, they are the best deal in wheels. Adequately light, and you can pick them up at the shop for the web price and you avoid shipping time and expense. Ride them for a bit to work out the wound up spokes (just like you should with any machine built wheel), and spend 20 minutes tightening and truing the wheel and they'll last a lifetime.
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Originally Posted by sced
Same price and won't last as long. Probably not that much lighter either (difference in weight is probably only the 8 missing spokes from each wheel - about 34 g/wheel).
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I wish performance or someone else would sell basically the same wheel but with with Aeroheads, OCR in rear.
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Texas Cyclesport does CXP-33's.

https://txcyclesport.com/Merchant2/me...handbuilt_road
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Originally Posted by mihlbach
I wish performance or someone else would sell basically the same wheel but with with Aeroheads, OCR in rear.
Mike Garcia wheels at www.oddsandendos.com

Still not as strong a rim as the Open Pro, but a pretty sturdy wheelset in its own right.
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Originally Posted by Second Mouse
They're about the same price at Colorado Cyclist and you get to pick your spokes & lacing.
I like CC and Excel Sports for mail-order hand-built wheels.
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Originally Posted by Brian Ratliff
Same price and won't last as long. Probably not that much lighter either (difference in weight is probably only the 8 missing spokes from each wheel - about 34 g/wheel).
Pure speculation on your part. Per the url "Both weigh 1684 g without skewers". I ridden my 195lbs about 1k miles on
https://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_S...ils&ProdID=738
and they've been great.
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Mavic CXP-22s are cheaper than OPs and 33s.
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I have a hand built Open Pro with my old 600 hub on the rear...needed some adjustments along the way...recently got the Open Pro with 6600 front hub from Performance store (for $117 using Tuesday lunchtime discount -- yes, website says 6500, but, mine had a 6600 hub -- ...it was true at purchase and after only 200+ miles is exactly the same...I check tension after every ride and still good...good price, good wheel...I believe the 6600 hub and Open Pro rim alone have an MSRP together of about $130...so, built with good quality and spokes and skewer at $117 is pretty darn good....there is so much good that has been said about the Open Pro, it is hard to imagine that you will go wrong with it...don't fear Performance machine built with hand inspection and adjusting of tension...
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