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Specialized SL2 with SRAM Red

Old 03-08-08, 08:04 PM
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Specialized SL2 with SRAM Red

I spent the afternoon at the lbs looking at the new SL2 in 54cm specked with SRAM Red. I could not get the bike to shift to the big ring (front) to save my life. The tech rep took it 5 times and each time said it would be good this time. It wasn't. Next he suggested the SRAM chain could be the culprit so he replaced it with Dura Ace. Nope. As I left he was replacing the Specialized chain rings with Dura Ace. Has anyone else ridden the stock bike with Red and had these type of problems? I really love the bike but the shifting is piss poor and I want to make sure it's not a bike thing and just poor adjustments.
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Old 03-08-08, 08:26 PM
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I've heard some people have had problems with the Specialized chainrings not being stiff enough but that doesn't seem like it would prevent getting to the big ring in the first place.
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Old 03-08-08, 09:15 PM
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Shop by me that has them switched them all over to dura ace.
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Old 03-08-08, 09:21 PM
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I was at the shop about two weeks ago and they had an S-works transition and an SL2 they had been working on for customers with full Red. They ended up switching out both the chain rings and switched the front der to Force to get things to work. The owner of the shop said he contacted SRAM and was told to send the Red Der.s back and replacements would be sent out. Basically the front Der was not stiff enough in combination with the rings to shift properly. Take the third hand infromation for what it is worth, it might help.
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Old 03-08-08, 10:26 PM
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I say drop the red and have them put on record.
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Old 03-08-08, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by krocdoc View Post
I spent the afternoon at the lbs looking at the new SL2 in 54cm specked with SRAM Red. I could not get the bike to shift to the big ring (front) to save my life. The tech rep took it 5 times and each time said it would be good this time. It wasn't. Next he suggested the SRAM chain could be the culprit so he replaced it with Dura Ace. Nope. As I left he was replacing the Specialized chain rings with Dura Ace. Has anyone else ridden the stock bike with Red and had these type of problems? I really love the bike but the shifting is piss poor and I want to make sure it's not a bike thing and just poor adjustments.
I had that problem with Rival (although I have an FSA crank). The problem for me was it wouldn't shift under load so I had to stop pedaling for it to shift. Not a huge issue for since I subconsciously stop pedaling when I shift anyway. The mechanic probably only tested it by turning the cranks on the stand so he didn't see the issue.

I'm surprised that would happen with Red though; they shortened the throw a lot.
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Old 03-09-08, 01:28 AM
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I have an SL (not SL2, but it is the same crank/chainrings) with Red. When I was building it, it took a while to get the tension in the cable right, but once I did I had no problems with it.
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The problem is with the Red FD, the cage isn't stiff enough to push the chain up. Your shop should have a Tech letter from Sram and Specialized on the issue.
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Old 03-09-08, 01:34 PM
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Yep, our shop just got an SL2 and it came with a Force FD. Size 54 came in at 14.68lb with speedplay stainless pedals and specialized carbon cages.
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Old 03-09-08, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by campyman099 View Post
The problem is with the Red FD, the cage isn't stiff enough to push the chain up. Your shop should have a Tech letter from Sram and Specialized on the issue.
Interesting... maybe that's why people's FDs are coming in heavier than they are supposed to be. Was it fixed in a new batch made with more material?
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Old 03-09-08, 03:56 PM
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I don't think SRAM has fixed the issue yet, I do know they are replacing the Red FD with Force though.
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Old 03-09-08, 04:00 PM
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Is it only a problem with the Sl2? If its a design flaw I would think I would have the problem too. Maybe a manufacturing defect?
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Originally Posted by umd View Post
Is it only a problem with the Sl2? If its a design flaw I would think I would have the problem too. Maybe a manufacturing defect?
The release lists the Transition, SL2, and Roubaix SL.

The problem could be more pervasive, though, as I believe those are the only Specialized bikes that come equipped with Red. If someone upgraded on a different frameset, I imagine something similar could be entirely possible.
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Old 03-09-08, 07:28 PM
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I think the issue is also a combination of the Specialized chainrings as well on the SL2. If you look at the inside of them, they basically have no lifters to help the chain climb up. They are almost smooth where my campy chainrings have little nubs to help lift the chainring.
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