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jackcoke 03-25-08 07:04 AM

Get yourself in real good shape, then show up in jeans and an old t-shirt...kinda 1970's Tom Ritchey look...and blow them all away.

patentcad 03-25-08 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by roadrunner13 (Post 6400064)
Heart Akerson has completed La Ruta ten times. I would love to see some cat 3 Lance wannabe give him sh*t on a group ride. He races in cut-off jeans and Tevas.
http://www.velonews.com/files/images/13728.21487.jpg

That is the Ultimate Sandbagger.

landshark 03-25-08 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by blonduathlongrl (Post 6399950)
* giggles*


about riding groups being elistic, Im split on that one..

"Elistic" is when you sneer at freds one minute, and then get snubbed by road nazi's the next, right? ;)

blonduathlongrl 03-25-08 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by landshark (Post 6400388)
"Elistic" is when you sneer at freds one minute, and then get snubbed by road nazi's the next, right? ;)

right... I think...;)



(did I spell that wrong?):o

patentcad 03-25-08 08:21 AM

Not for nothing, but here at the BF Think Tank you're considered elitist if you can spell the word properly.

crewshell 03-25-08 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by catherine96821 (Post 6395927)
oh yea, I get that.

I don't dive with people that could kill me.

here are a couple of examples though:

my last cyclists BF had two pairs of identical shoes. One for the car, one for the beach so that when we went surfing, one pair would remain sand-free. And he always carried a gallon of water in his car to rinse his toes, and he was always trying to pull my ponytail through the back of my cap....I don't like all that, when the guy is more feminine than I am.

another would fill out index cards with the address where he was, his full name and SS # and when I laughed at that, he indignantly asked "do you know how many people across America, are in comas, and nobody knows who they are?

I just think it's funny.

I'm sure he is right, precisely right.

I don't meet too many people in other activities that are planning their *post coma existence* to that degree.

But my friends had fun making "If Found" stickers with his picture on it after he went back to Socal, and putting them everywhere.

I am only pointing out that these guys can be cheap entertainment if you can assume the right mindset. And then there are the hikers that clip the tags from their t-shirts, he he.

And of course, my old Vitus got me some ridicule. Sometimes? Certain people making fun of you is actually a compliment.

This post presents you as a judgemental twit. Gotta bring people down to raise yourself up is all I got from this post. If that wasn't your intention you may want to reread it and better express what was.

Duke of Kent 03-25-08 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by roadrunner13 (Post 6400064)
Heart Akerson has completed La Ruta ten times. I would love to see some cat 3 Lance wannabe give him sh*t on a group ride. He races in cut-off jeans and Tevas.
http://www.velonews.com/files/images/13728.21487.jpg

If the woman behind him is any indication of the fitness level it takes to complete (notice you didn't say "win", "podium", "in the money", or "race") La Ruta in a similar time, I'll take my chances.

Ih8lucky13 03-25-08 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by roadrunner13 (Post 6400064)
Heart Akerson has completed La Ruta ten times. I would love to see some cat 3 Lance wannabe give him sh*t on a group ride. He races in cut-off jeans and Tevas.
http://www.velonews.com/files/images/13728.21487.jpg

Well since he learned that neat little resurrection trick almost 2,000 years ago it is kind of hard to give him sh** .

blonduathlongrl 03-25-08 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 6400424)
Not for nothing, but here at the BF Think Tank you're considered elitist if you can spell the word properly.

I knew I never had what it takes:o

patentcad 03-25-08 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by crewshell (Post 6400429)
This post presents you as a judgemental twit. Gotta bring people down to raise yourself up is all I got from this post. If that wasn't your intention you may want to reread it and better express what was.

But crewshell, your post presents you as a pure twit.

crewshell 03-25-08 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 6400534)
But crewshell, your post presents you as a pure twit.

When you stop referring to yourself in the third person and actually present some useful feedback, then maybe we can talk, otherwise your comments are a waste of space.

Maybe you could use your time to actually HELP the OP instead of fishing around for opportunities to get your jollies on with degrading comments.

substructure 03-25-08 09:30 AM

****

Apus^2 03-25-08 09:43 AM

Who isn't a judgmental twit here in BF at one time or another? Don't take on the Pcad. He will bury you with his massive post count.

crtreedude 03-25-08 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by Duke of Kent (Post 6400432)
If the woman behind him is any indication of the fitness level it takes to complete (notice you didn't say "win", "podium", "in the money", or "race") La Ruta in a similar time, I'll take my chances.

If La Ruta is La Ruta de Conquistadores in Costa Rica I got news for you - unless you are in awesome shape - it will kill you. It is the hardest Mountain Bike race in the world. It is a multi-day race (mountain bike) over the mountains (not little wimpy hills) and NOT asphalt - going through coffee plantations, fording rivers, etc.

To survive is a major acheivement. One the first stage, the winner was about 5 hours, the 50th, 8 hours. This is not riding in a pack, this is pure survive.

If they guy rides in it and finishes, he would have most of you wimpering on the hills.

Of course, if he saw a snowflake, we would go crying for his Mommie most likely...

Campag4life 03-25-08 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by crewshell (Post 6400708)
When you stop referring to yourself in the third person and actually present some useful feedback, then maybe we can talk, otherwise your comments are a waste of space.

Maybe you could use your time to actually HELP the OP instead of fishing around for opportunities to get your jollies on with degrading comments.

You are right of course. I remind you of the bell curve. Those that do community service to help others and on the opposite spectrum, serial murderers. Pcad though loathsome is just a sad narcissist because his daddy, if he had one, didn't give him any love. Fred references and insulting others is in effect insulting himself which he feels comfortable with because in his mind he is a Fred which of course even falls short of the mark. :p

Flak 03-25-08 10:12 AM

To the OP. I showed up to the my first group ride, introduced myself, explained i hadn't ridden in a group before and asked about general etiquette/rules. I was smart enough to know i couldn't ride with the hammers, but found a place in the C ride, then later moved up to the B ride. By the end of summer, if i saw a new guy i would engage them in a convo and give them a quick run down as it was given to me. Everyone wins that way, he knows what to expect, and i know what his skill level is and treat him accordingly.

Show up, ride, and if you have questions....ask. If you don't have questions, then you should know what to do and should be able to hang and the problem will resolve itself when you prove you can hang and not kill the group.

logdrum 03-25-08 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by terrymorse (Post 6399498)
I interpreted "rode our draft horses" to mean you drafted behind some big and tall cyclists, aka clydesdales.

No real horses -- good for your core!



Vixens = girls!! -- with mammary glands and wide hips not tiny men

http://www.pbase.com/lazyriverpony/i...8/original.jpg

botto 03-25-08 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by roadrunner13 (Post 6400064)
Heart Akerson has completed La Ruta ten times. I would love to see some cat 3 Lance wannabe give him sh*t on a group ride. He races in cut-off jeans and Tevas.
http://www.velonews.com/files/images/13728.21487.jp g

are you illiterate, clueless, or did you just not bother reading most of the posts?

blonduathlongrl 03-25-08 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Campag4life (Post 6400972)
You are right of course. I remind you of the bell curve. Those that do community service to help others and on the opposite spectrum, serial murderers. Pcad though loathsome is just a sad narcissist because his daddy, if he had one, didn't give him any love. Fred references and insulting others is in effect insulting himself which he feels comfortable with because in his mind he is a Fred which of course even falls short of the mark. :p

so what should our conclusion be of yourself when you insult him at every chance you get?

Duke of Kent 03-25-08 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by crtreedude (Post 6400864)
If La Ruta is La Ruta de Conquistadores in Costa Rica I got news for you - unless you are in awesome shape - it will kill you. It is the hardest Mountain Bike race in the world. It is a multi-day race (mountain bike) over the mountains (not little wimpy hills) and NOT asphalt - going through coffee plantations, fording rivers, etc.

To survive is a major acheivement. One the first stage, the winner was about 5 hours, the 50th, 8 hours. This is not riding in a pack, this is pure survive.

If they guy rides in it and finishes, he would have most of you wimpering on the hills.

Of course, if he saw a snowflake, we would go crying for his Mommie most likely...

Sorry, again, but unless the woman in the jersey in the background is in possession of a lactate threshold in the area of 400w or more, I think I'd be able to finish.

I might only ride my bike 20hrs a week, and I might not MTB at the moment, but physically, I'd eat her and old man river for breakfast, rinsed down with my Earl Grey with lemon.

botto 03-25-08 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by Campag4life (Post 6400972)
You are right of course. I remind you of the bell curve. Those that do community service to help others and on the opposite spectrum, serial murderers. Pcad though loathsome is just a sad narcissist because his daddy, if he had one, didn't give him any love. Fred references and insulting others is in effect insulting himself which he feels comfortable with because in his mind he is a Fred which of course even falls short of the mark. :p

Revealing your man crush? Again. :rolleyes:

robncircus 03-25-08 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by MrCjolsen (Post 6393702)
If you ask me, your gear is far superior to theirs in terms of function. Unless they are actual racers, they should be on bikes like yours and not on carbon fiber racing bikes.

If you really want to start messing with them, ask them how they get to work. When they say they drive, ask them "Why? You have such an nice bike."

Since nobody has addressed this then I'll chime. I despise attitudes such as this. Please do tell me what you are basing gear superiority on... I'm not saying the OPs is any worse or better but to insinuate that only a racer should have a CF bike is silly.

Additionally, you do realize that many people don't have the luxury of riding to work right? As some who used to ride for work it just irks me when the "I ride to work and you don't" attitude come out. I wish I was as witty as Pcad or botto in this response but I'm not that good.

Cheers

Rob

roadrunner13 03-25-08 11:01 AM

I am hugging you right now. It is okay.

umd 03-25-08 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by MrCjolsen (Post 6393702)
If you ask me, your gear is far superior to theirs in terms of function. Unless they are actual racers, they should be on bikes like yours and not on carbon fiber racing bikes.

As for the rack and fenders, no and maybe. There could be some slight aerodynamic gain if you removed the fenders, but I've never noticed one. No measurable gain if you removed the rack. The weight of either accessory is also negligible unless the rack is made of wrought iron. In fact, on your next ride with these people, you should bring a trunk bag and fill it with snacks. After the ride, share them with the riders who were nice to you.

If you really want to start messing with them, ask them how they get to work. When they say they drive, ask them "Why? You have such an nice bike."

Incorrect. I commute to work on my "race" bikes.

substructure 03-25-08 11:07 AM

I like biscuits.


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