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drainyoo 03-24-08 11:46 AM

Need a fast tire
 
I need some advice on tires. I'm looking for something fast, durable and light. If that even exists. All of my riding will be on NYC streets on DT Swiss RR 1.2 rims. I'm willing to spend some money on great tires. Can anyone recommend something good?

cslone 03-24-08 11:59 AM

Pro Race 2 or PR 3 from Michelin. I was always paranoid about running them daily, but I, as well as a few teammates have run them all the time for a few years with good results. Some will complain about their puncture resistence, supposedly corrected with the PR3, but I've had 1 flat in 5K miles.

Rob P 03-24-08 12:09 PM

I've had great experience with the Pro 2 Race and GP4000S tires. I find both to be a great ride, durable and fast. Though neither pedals for me ;)

The only flat I've ever had with the Michelin Pro 2 Race is when I got pushed into the ditch by a car and road over a board with a nail sticking up. Actually went clear through my rim. Tire didn't have a chance.

s4one 03-24-08 12:10 PM

I am on Conti 4000S, they work well and are very sticky. I do not have many miles on them yet so I will report back.

drainyoo 03-24-08 12:15 PM

I've been reading a lot of about these Michelins. I guess I'll give them a try. As for tubes, any good recommendations on those? The RR 1.2 rims are deep so would I need a 60mm valve?

yak 03-24-08 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by drainyoo (Post 6395076)
I need some advice on tires. I'm looking for something fast, durable and light. If that even exists. All of my riding will be on NYC streets on DT Swiss RR 1.2 rims. I'm willing to spend some money on great tires. Can anyone recommend something good?

Does not exist...

My favorite fast & light tire is the Veloflex Corsa. I use them as an everyday tire. Some seasons I have had no flats, others 4 or 5. I get about 1200 miles out of one.

Jynx 03-24-08 12:55 PM

"Fast"
Michelin Pro Race 3
Michelin Pro Race 2

"Durable"
Michelin Krylion Carbon

Treefox 03-24-08 01:09 PM

Michelin Pro3Race, Conti GP 4000s, or Conti GP Attack/Force.

I've long used the Pro2Races, but recently picked up a pair of the Attack/Forces (when I couldn't wait any longer for the Pro3Race to come out). I admit I really like the feel of the Attack/Forces.

I'm not entirely sure if there are significant differences between the 4000s and the Attack/Force - there are subtle differences, but I'm not sure if they really matter much.

drainyoo 03-24-08 01:45 PM

How long do the Pro 3's or 2's usually last?

KidTruth 03-24-08 03:10 PM

If you are looking for something light but with more focus on being bulletproof try Michelin Krylion Carbons. Nothing but stellar reviews across the board on roadbikereview.com and I can personally attest to their badassness.

They are not a racing tire, but they are not heavy and do not roll like **** like armadillos and gators do. They are 245 grams on the 23's and the only way you will get a flat is rolling straight over an upturned nail.

jimblairo 03-24-08 03:36 PM

I ride on D T RR 1.2 rims and I use a 48mm presta stem.

LowCel 03-24-08 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by yak (Post 6395485)
Does not exist...

My favorite fast & light tire is the Veloflex Corsa. I use them as an everyday tire. Some seasons I have had no flats, others 4 or 5. I get about 1200 miles out of one.

I'm sorry but I wouldn't consider 1,200 miles to be durable. I consider 2,000 a minimum to be considered durable, I don't think I could justify running a tire that I had to replace every 1,200 miles. I'm used to getting at least 2,500 miles out of tires.

jinws 03-24-08 05:08 PM

I can't believe no one's mentioned Ultremo. Everyone who's tried them seems to like them. They will probably be my next tire purchase.

currently, the Conti 4000S has been good to me.

Brian6751 03-24-08 05:43 PM

Pro 3 Race

palesaint 03-24-08 05:55 PM

I'm still racking up the miles on them, but I've been riding a pair of Kenda Kriteriums for a couple months now. 199grams and they roll pretty fast. The best part is that they seem to be quite a bit more durable than my panaracer stradius pro. The panaracers are a bit lighter and I perceive a slightly faster ride. But not enough to worry about them going flat on a ride.

The Kenda's are marketing some iron cloak technology that helps resist flats. Seems to work well. So far I'm impressed, but I have only 500-600 miles on them so far.

operator 03-24-08 06:06 PM

The pro races cut as easy as ****. Keep that in mind. That's going to be true for any high TPI tire.

CastIron 03-24-08 06:28 PM

Exactly how easy does **** cut? Has this been standardized in a testing form by say, UL labs or such?

Schwalbe Ultremo. Though mine do seem to cut (but not puncture so far) easy as ****.

biker128pedal 03-24-08 06:36 PM

I got about 2,500 miles on a set of Pro2s rotating them every 500 miles. Before that I has some Bontranger Race-X-lites and the rear was gone before 500 miles.

StanSeven 03-24-08 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by operator (Post 6397388)
The pro races cut as easy as ****. Keep that in mind. That's going to be true for any high TPI tire.

Pro Race do get cosmetic cuts easy but they don't usually cause flats. They worried me at first but I didn't ever get a flat though perhaps ten rear tires and five fronts

AEO 03-24-08 06:49 PM

pothole: 2 | pro 2 race: 0

Double flat from a single pot hole, funny as hell :p

I'd still ride P2R though.
I just patched the tyre with some duct tape and plumber's quick repair tape.

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...isc/Tyre01.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...isc/Tyre02.jpg

FrankBattle 03-24-08 06:50 PM

What makes a tire .. fast?

LowCel 03-24-08 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by palesaint (Post 6397321)
I'm still racking up the miles on them, but I've been riding a pair of Kenda Kriteriums for a couple months now. 199grams and they roll pretty fast. The best part is that they seem to be quite a bit more durable than my panaracer stradius pro. The panaracers are a bit lighter and I perceive a slightly faster ride. But not enough to worry about them going flat on a ride.

The Kenda's are marketing some iron cloak technology that helps resist flats. Seems to work well. So far I'm impressed, but I have only 500-600 miles on them so far.

I got around 3,000 - 3,500 out of my last set of Kriteriums. I was very happy with them. Like you said, not the fastest rolling tire but the durability and the traction in the rain really makes up for it.

rpj795 03-24-08 07:56 PM

The Zipp Tangente tire, i love mine but they are like pricey.

GPB 03-24-08 08:13 PM

Here's some data that's a bit dated...been posted here before. At the bottom of the page, you can click on tubular or clincher tables to see a run-down.

http://rouesartisanales.over-blog.co...e-1503651.html

StanSeven 03-24-08 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by FrankBattle (Post 6397663)
What makes a tire .. fast?

The big thing is low rolling resistance.


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