garysol1 

A while back I had found a link to a site that showed with pictures the "correct" way to fold a spare glued tubular tire. Does anyone possibly have a link to that site or one like it?

botto 

over the shoulders.

garysol1 

Just imagine that mess!!

garysol1 

Found IT

ultraman6970

Actually u can make it so small than it fits perfect under the seat. U wont even notice it is there.

ultraman6970

THe one in the picture is bartalli right?

BoSoxYacht

thanks for the tip(it's the same as my method), I wondered if there was a better way to carry a spare, other than the sag-wagon/chase car.

garysol1 

how ya been stranger?

dgasmd

Just a tip for those to whom it may help. I tried that method and found that the very back of my thighs would rub a little with the corners of the folded tire to the point of almost eating right through 2 pairs of Assos bibs. I decided to fold the tire differently over itself and it has worked out much better. I also found after a couple of flats that the glue section was packed with dirt and such. The main reason being that I ride mostly very early in the morning. In Florida, there are sprinklers everywhere, and mostly go off in the middle of the night, so the streets are soaked and with all the sand everywhere here, the bike gets really dirty, especially under the seat and such areas. WHat I did to try was to wrap the tire very tightly in saran wrap, and then strap it under the set as usual. It has worked out very well as the last time I had a flat the tire was completely clean and ready to go.







Those pictures above are with a much thicker tire I was using as a spare and also without the saran wrap. Let me know if you would like to see the current pictures with a much thinner tire, different folding, and wrapped.

garysol1 

Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!

revolator

Yes, ty

dgasmd

The pictures make it look terrible. It does not look that chitty in reality or Fred for lack of a better word. Here they are anyway.

MIN 

I need to work on my folding technique, compared to some of the masters here. I use a light bag to keep road grime at bay. This is my fixed gear bike. My geared bike is folded a bit neater.

Mellowman

do lighter tubular tires fold up smaller, like a tufo elite jet 160g tubie?

dgasmd

Yes, they do. I don't know about the Tufo in particular, but the better the quality of the tire, the more pliable they are. So, the easier they tend to be to fold and get flatter. It is also a matter of squeezing all the air out as you fold and then closing the valve so no more gets in as you tie it with something. I use 3 strips of velcro to keep it folded and then an old toe strap to attach it under the seat. I used to actually fold it and fit it inside a little bag under the seat, which after a lot of wrestling would close. It just looked all wrong and would be extremely difficult to fit hardly anything else (even a single CO2 cartridge) in it.

garysol1 

on a slightly different subject.....Has anyone actually tried to use a sealant such as Pit Stop through an open (Zipp) type extender? I have read some posts that say it works fine and others say it does not. I would love to hear some first hand experiences. I am going broke and really do not want to have buy a Tufo type extender just to be able to use sealant.

dgasmd

I use the zipp extenders in all my tubular wheels. I have used the Hutchinson and the Vittoria Pitstop stuff just fine with the extender in place. No issues. One trick to avoid a mess, with or without an extender is to let the entire can go in before pulling it out. "Dosing it" just makes a freaking mess once a little has gone in.

GeraldChan

If you buy a seatbag made just for tubulars you will have room for the tire and all the other stuff, including the CO2 cartridge and the 1 tire lever to break the cement seal.
I just bought one at my local Performance store (it was in their "small parts" area so it may not be a regularly stocked item).
20 years ago Cannondale made a tubular seat bag which was perfect! (Still have mine.)

Leaving a spare unprotected under the saddle allows the strap to chaf the sidewall of the tire which could compromise the integrity of the tire. I'm sorry but the Saran wrap would bring out the OCP police on your group rides.

dgasmd

I saw the one that Tufo makes and it looks huge. I can fold the tire much neater and make a smaller package than the entire size of the bag. Hence the reason I don't have one.

It is funny you mention the OCP police in rides. Hardly anybody ever even notices the wrapped tire. For some reason, in the pictures it looks hideous and sort of jump at you. I am very anal when it comes to looks, so I would rather ride with no spare tire than ride with it looking crappy. Trust me when I say this is one of those times when pictures and real life are very far from equal.

Do you have some pictures of your tubular seat bag??? Please post them all.

GeraldChan

Sorry but I don't know how to post digital pics onto the web.

Gerry

garysol1 

One more question guys. I have a brand new Conti Sprinter stretching on a spare rim. It will be used for my spare. Lets say I leave it inflated on the spare rim for 48 hours, glue it then fold it. Will the tire retain the stretch size indefinitely or overtime will it revert back to its original non stretched size?

MIN 

ontinental tires shrink back somewhat. Tufo, clement and schwalbe do not in my experience. It depends on the casing construction. Prestretching longer or using a used tire mitigates this.

garysol1 

Thanks. The only used tubs I have are about 20 years old I actually tried to inflate one last week and at 40psi the whole side of the tire blew out.

Mellowman

why do you want to pre-stretch a tire meant to be a spare? is it because of the glue? what if you use tape and your spare is a tire you will replace once you get home, do you still pre-stretch?

GeraldChan

Once stretched, you will be fine. Make sure you have the basetape with the glue on it folded touching tape to tape, then fold it into 1/3's. Before folding it roll it up so as to get all the air out.