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Old 08-05-08, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rooftest
This discussion reminds me of the interview with Cat Stevens where he talks about how he loves living in the middle east since people shoot each other in the US.
I can't help myself, it's like picking at a sore, but zeus help me: A Canadian (me) taking the piss out of Americans for talking about guns on a bike forum reminds you of the middle east?

I honestly thought roadies were supposed to be the intellectuals of the bike world. I think I thought wrong.
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You're all ******* anyhow.

Guns don't do a thing but instigate. Flash a pipe bomb at the offender, however, and their sphincter will tingle.

And anyone listening to the limp-wrist from America's hat who is blabbing on about intellectualism needs to reevaluate their ability to filter content. Since when has anyone on the international scale listened to anything posited by a Canadian? They're a country by proxy, for Buddha's sake...we let them play in the snow and scrapbook up there and suddenly they think their opinions are valid.

Bottom line: Guns are a silly idea unless you ride through Compton, and no one needs the input of some leaf-flagged fancy-boy.
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Originally Posted by rousseau
Another good one. This is a bike forum. And every time a conflict between cyclists and motorists comes up the American forumers start suggesting cyclists carry guns. This is totally and utterly bizarre, and you'd have to be an American not to see this.

C'mon, any talk about guns on a bike forum is just freakin' toe-curlingly weird, and if my yukkin' it up about this gets your panties in a bunch then I'd humbly suggest that my "problem" is a bit less serious than yours.

Now go out on your back porch and shoot those cans off the fence like a good boy.
I agree 100% with this post. And I live in Texas.
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And this thread hasn't been locked because ...
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Originally Posted by rousseau
Hee hee hee...anytime a non-American on this board makes a particularly noticeable comment, about ten different Americans line up one after each other to make lame jokes about Sweden or the UK or Canada or whatever. I make some comments about guns and SUVs, which, news flash, are freakin' ubiquitous all over the U.S. and even California, even in spite of the fact that there do indeed exist a couple of Berkeley grad students who have never personally handled a gun themselves, and I'm a nationalistic prick? Moi?

Isn't this an international forum? How come you Americans can dish it out, but you can't take it? Are you really so molly-coddled down there?
You rarely see or read Americans on this forum make comments out of the blue about other nationalities, but you're right, you do have a*hole know-it-alls from other countries start it up, and you wonder why anybody says anything back? So, yeah, that is nationalistic, in the sense that it views the world and people based on perceived national differences.

I'm not a gun owner, not a supporter of ubiquitous gun access, don't have a gun mentality. I'm in many ways pretty damned 'liberal'. Studied, worked and lived abroad. I gotta tell you, it's amazing the level of misunderstanding of U.S. culture by people who have no idea....they both loathe and are obsessed with the U.S., without understanding it enough to warrant either. My friend awhile back from W. Europe was like that until he lived here for awhile...he still dislikes aspects of the U.S. (I do too at times), but he changed his mind quite a bit, and at least he understands it enough to not be full of sh*t about what he thinks now.

We get to criticize ourselves because it's our country, not yours.
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You present an interesting, though thoughtful, example of American ignorance and parochialism. Let me enlighten you on a few things.

Originally Posted by re-cycler
Studied, worked and lived abroad. I gotta tell you, it's amazing the level of misunderstanding of U.S. culture by people who have no idea....
The U.S. may be the current military and media power, but this axiomatic attitude that one should be obliged to "understand" U.S. culture is a bit pathetic. I don't have a deep understanding of Fatushka culture either, but I do know that their coming-of-age ceremonies are bloody and cruel and their foreign policy is premised upon the wisdom of astrology, so I make fun of those aspects of their culture with abandon. As I do of American obesity and gun culture, especially when the topic of guns is raised in, it can't be repeated with scorn enough, a fargin' bike forum. Try and stop me. Or, better yet, make igloo jokes the next time a Canadian cyclist complains about slipping on the ice in January. Canadians can't ever hear enough of those.

Originally Posted by re-cycler
...they both loathe and are obsessed with the U.S., without understanding it enough to warrant either.
I have a deep admiration for one thing about the U.S., and one thing only: your constitution. That's a great document. But I loathe most other things about the country I've come into contact with. Hey, I loathe a heckuva lot about Canadian culture, too! But here's a hint: lots of people aren't obsessed with the U.S., and if the morons hadn't shown up on this thread to suggest gun use on bikes then none of this would have come up, and I wouldn't have thought about the U.S. until maybe November, when the Toronto Raptors start playing again. Oh, right, America has one good sport: basketball. I love it to death. But the other sports you got suck donkey's balls, unfortunately.

And before you make the obvious retort, I don't actually like hockey. Do you?

Originally Posted by re-cycler
We get to criticize ourselves because it's our country, not yours.
Ah, no. When one American after another talks about guns on (are we getting the hint?) a farookin' bike forum, then people of sound mind and body, after smirking and thinking that these yokels can't be serious, start to respond critically when such cretinous notions go unchallenged.

Hey, the next time a Canucklehead asks about the best way to carry a dozen donuts and a hockey stick on his Colnago, why not let'er rip with the igloo jokes?
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Old 08-05-08, 10:49 PM
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You guys(or porkers with pistols as he calls us) are over-feeding Rousseau the reaction troll.
Right now he,s in a darken room enjoying the bliss of self-gratification.
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I was mugged at gunpoint by a fat man in Sault Ste Marie.
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What the hell?! I was following this thread and it turns into this crap?

Lock it please!!!!!

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Originally Posted by mugatu
I was mugged at gunpoint by a fat man in Sault Ste Marie.
I was smacked by a prostitute in Montreal.
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I was smacked by a prostitute in Montreal.
How much did that cost you?
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Originally Posted by rousseau
I can't help myself, it's like picking at a sore, but zeus help me: A Canadian (me) taking the piss out of Americans for talking about guns on a bike forum reminds you of the middle east?

I honestly thought roadies were supposed to be the intellectuals of the bike world. I think I thought wrong.
Yes - Cat Stevens has his head so far up his ass, he doesn't notice that people like blowing each other up, as well as shooting them, in his own neck of the woods.

Your stupidity is evident - as you are describing yourself as an intellectual while using bad grammar to do so.
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C'mon guys lets get along Jesus loves you.

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Originally Posted by cwilliams
What the hell?! I was following this thread and it turns into this crap?

Lock it please!!!!!

Sorry about that fella.
Sort of like reading a fiscal corporate report at a meeting and the guy next to you blows his shorts.
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Originally Posted by rooftest
Your stupidity is evident - as you are describing yourself as an intellectual while using bad grammar to do so.
Okay, I'll bite: where did I make a grammar mistake? "Wrong" is an adverb, among other things, so it's not that. I must be going off my rocker because I don't see my mistake.

Enlighten me.
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What the hell is Canada anyway, but America light? Sorry about the crankiness, I haven't had my ration of Moosefat yet.
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Originally Posted by rousseau
The U.S. may be the current military and media power, but this axiomatic attitude that one should be obliged to "understand" U.S. culture is a bit pathetic. As I do of American obesity and gun culture, especially when the topic of guns is raised in, it can't be repeated with scorn enough, a fargin' bike forum. Try and stop me.
Sound Familiar??

Before you go and run off at the mouth and tell me what you will do to me just let me say you aren't going to do **** to me or my .45 redhawk!


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I have a deep admiration for one thing about the U.S., and one thing only: your constitution. That's a great document. But I loathe most other things about the country I've come into contact with.
A couple points...
1) It is our Constitution that allows us to keep guns, a fact many purported admirers of the Constitution tend to overlook

2) That Constitution would never have come into existence if it weren't for gun-owning Americans

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Oh, right, America has one good sport: basketball. I love it to death. But the other sports you got suck donkey's balls, unfortunately.
Because that was relevant...
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Originally Posted by rousseau
You present an interesting, though thoughtful, example of American ignorance and parochialism. Let me enlighten you on a few things.
ooo...please do......

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The U.S. may be the current military and media power, but this axiomatic attitude that one should be obliged to "understand" U.S. culture is a bit pathetic.
You're not obliged to understand anything...until you open your mouth to pontificate about it. But I like your use of "axiomatic"...very nice.

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But here's a hint: lots of people aren't obsessed with the U.S.
but you are...look, dude, I spent much of my social time in Europe among the anti-fascist set (unfortuntately, at times)...I know the drill....I buy much of it...I just also believe that, really, we're all basically pretty similar...and constructs like good guy/bad guy really don't help...and that most of the harshest criticisms of the U.S. ( I'm very critical of the U.S., btw) were by people who both had little experience with it, and lots of obsession with it. Their venom comes from their own self-loathing that they secretly like what they think they know of the culture that (unfortunately) dominates them. 6 months of my friend being here, he said "I still think the U.S. is the most imperialist, fascist country on earth...but I like it now, too." He liked it before, he just acknowledged that it was misunderstood by him and other people. That's what getting off of our collective high horses is all about. Then we can REALLY get together and kick against the pricks...rather than the phantom enemies we set up...picking on the proletariat, when they're just the subjects of a problem, isn't the answer.

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and if the morons hadn't shown up on this thread to suggest gun use on bikes then none of this would have come up, and I wouldn't have thought about the U.S. until maybe November, when the Toronto Raptors start playing again.
I don't like gun culture either. But you are really not going to get anywhere with condescending, elitist BS, when, really, it's all pretty much the same stuff everywhere...countries are constructs...much like sports teams.

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How many of you that would suggest or approve of carrying guns while cycling would actually use them? Say, hypothetically, Bubba redneck and his cousin Jennie run you off the road in their '81 bronco 4x4, you're carrying your brand new glock 9mm, what are you going to do exactly? Say he stops and gets out and draws his whatever he has and points it at your face, what then? Would you draw your weapon? Would you kill him?

I have a feeling that not many of you would be willing to take another human being's life in such a circumstance, so why carry? Don't think nobody will call your bluff, either.

We're all scared of drivers like that whether we admit it or not. Acting like a tough guy on a bike forum isn't going to change that fact.
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Originally Posted by mazdaspeed
How many of you that would suggest or approve of carrying guns while cycling would actually use them? Say, hypothetically, Bubba redneck and his cousin Jennie run you off the road in their '81 bronco 4x4, you're carrying your brand new glock 9mm, what are you going to do exactly? Say he stops and gets out and draws his whatever he has and points it at your face, what then? Would you draw your weapon? Would you kill him?

I have a feeling that not many of you would be willing to take another human being's life in such a circumstance, so why carry? Don't think nobody will call your bluff, either.

We're all scared of drivers like that whether we admit it or not. Acting like a tough guy on a bike forum isn't going to change that fact.
im taking my concealed permit test next weekend.

i have felt threatened on quite a few occasions. The bike is useful because you can easily outrun a car by nature of being able to use more terrain and change direction rapidly.

the most useful thing on a bicycle is a camera and or a cell phone when authorities are actually supportive. This is clearly not always the case as most authorities are completely ignorant oblivious or vehemently against cycling on public roads in these parts of the country.

So yes, it's not always bad to carry a small weapon when biking.
Also there's lots of dangerous wild animals and I like to ride late at night when it's cool out and they are out looking for food, which includes two wheeling humans.
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You avoided my question though, what are you going to do with your weapon? Do you think the cyclist hating authorities are going to be more understanding when they show up to the scene and you're standing over a dead body? Or do you not plan to use your weapon, and if that's the case, why carry it to begin with [when you said animals are a secondary concern]?
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zOMG,

this thread delivers on so many different levels.

This thread really brings the lulz.


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Man, I love guns and hunting. But when I go on a bike ride, I leave the fun at home.

https://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/h...ory?id=3086588

Guns, aren't anything to mess with. Carry a gun while you ride a bicycle if you wish, but I hope I never see you. We will all get what we deserve in the end.

Like some one else here said, why not throw your water bottle at the car? Where do you live, Cabrini Greens in chicago?

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