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here is my idea. tell me what you think

Old 04-14-08, 02:28 PM
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here is my idea. tell me what you think

some of you may have read my story about crashing. if not, i did. ends up my scott cr1 is essentially totaled. the frame has a crack in it. so now im in the hunt for a new set of wheels and my LBS has offered me a GREAT deal on a bike. its a scott 2006 plasma pro. the retail is $4000 but he has it on sale for $3000. since dealing with him with the cr1 he gave me some $$ off and i talked him down to $2400.

so the catch is, its a time trial bike and im interested in using it as my road bike. am going to swap the wing bars out for normal drop bars and put regular ultegra or 105 shifters on it. ive looked at the geometry of both the cr1 and the plasma and the biggest difference is on the head tube and the seat angle. the head tube is 2 inches smaller that the cr1 and the seat angle is pitched 2.7 inches towards the front of the bike. the angle doesnt bother me since i try to ride in a aero position anyway. and the head tube i figure can be brought up using risers and a longer stem that is pitched up more than the cr1.

does anyone think this is a 'bad' idea?

the seat angle is really the only thing that seems to be a big problem but when i ride i try to roll my hips forwards to flatten my back and become more aero. the cr1 doesnt naturally let me sit like that so i figure the plasma will.


regardless is a ridiculous deal



PS- im looking for advice, not an insult
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Old 04-14-08, 03:29 PM
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Dude, we've told you before, in your last thread this is an awful idea.
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Old 04-14-08, 03:49 PM
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Not sure I'd recommend a time trial bike if you're going to be doing road riding. You can get a good road bike for less that the deal they're offering.
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Old 04-14-08, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by feethanddooth View Post
PS- im looking for advice, not an insult
Advice? Buy a road frame, and put the components from your previous bike on it. Why would you want a TT bike for everyday riding?

<edit> A little more advice...tell the guy that's trying to sell you a TT bike for road riding that he's doing you a disservice.

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Old 04-14-08, 03:56 PM
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This is not from experience, but based on simply what you have presented, and a minimal understanding of bicycle geometries...

It is signifcantly easier to make a general purpose road bike into a reasonable TT bike than to make a dedicated TT bike into a reasonable general purpose road bike.

Neither direction is optimal... so unless you are going to be doing a lot of tris or time trials, skip this deal.
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Old 04-14-08, 03:58 PM
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Bad. Idea.
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Old 04-14-08, 04:05 PM
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i say go for it!

i have specialized roubaix road bike and a cervelo p2c tri/tt bike. if i go for a long ride on either one...i honestly cannot notice a comfort difference. they are equally comfortable after a super long ride. as far as tri/tt geometry being better for the running leg of a triathlon...not for me. my legs are equally wobbly after a long ride on either bike.

but i'm not sure if i'd use the p2c for a whole lot of climbing...heavier...and when climbing, i feel like the geometry does affect my performance when on the p2c...

overall? unless you're a top level competitor...or unless you do tons of climbing...i don't think converting a tri/tt bike to a roadbike should present much difficulty or compromise...
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It's a terrible idea. The End.

P.S. Cornering and climbing will be so different than what you are used to, that you will soon realize the person trying to sell that frame to you as a road bike is an idiot, and doesn't give a rat's *** about you. The wheel base is shorter, the bb is farther back (hence, so will your feet be farther back), and the placement of the bars (given the same stem length as your last bike) will be uncomfortably far back. There are also many other proven facts regarding "trail" and fork-rake issues that would make it hard handle in a responsible fashion for the street, and your body.

The best idea is to get a frame similar to the one you already had, so you can continue to ride as you are used to. Or using this as a chance to make any adjustments that makes sense.
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Btw - wouldn't it just be cheaper to buy a road frame and move the parts from the crashed bike over? Lotta good frames to be had out there for waaay less than what you're looking to spend on the deal you're being offered.
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Originally Posted by ravenmore View Post
Btw - wouldn't it just be cheaper to buy a road frame and move the parts from the crashed bike over? Lotta good frames to be had out there for waaay less than what you're looking to spend on the deal you're being offered.
He obviously just wants that bike and will rationalize in whatever way needed to make it happen...
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Originally Posted by ravenmore View Post
Btw - wouldn't it just be cheaper to buy a road frame and move the parts from the crashed bike over? Lotta good frames to be had out there for waaay less than what you're looking to spend on the deal you're being offered.
Doh... what a great idea!!
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Scott has a crash replacement deal. Well under $1k for a frameset. Alternatively, you can get it repaired.
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big no, however the plasma is ridiculous and if you have the bank then take the deal and get yourself a road bike as well, however getting just the plasma as a replacement for your road bike is flawed thinking.

Its your life, your money and your back to break, so get whatever you want and pay no mind to this educated chatter....
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Old 04-14-08, 07:18 PM
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Bad idea. Buy the cheap Ridley on competitive cyclist!
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