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"Don't bring the bike next time."

Old 04-23-08, 03:20 PM
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"Don't bring the bike next time."

Was out on my road bike today and needed to pick up a prescription for hay feever that had been called in and was way past ready at a local supermarket. Decided to just ride into their drive through and get it. The fat dude behind the glass and some of the other workers are gathered looking out like I was doing the most crazy thing they ever saw. He asks me many questions to prove it's my script, gives it to me and tells me "don't bring the bike next time." I asked why, and he said it's a safety issue. They care about my safety? I'm thinking, yeah right, there isn't going to be a next time, and I don't think I even want to shop here any more. Might be over reacting?, but it really pissed me off. If it was a motorcycle I wondered if he would have said the same.
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Old 04-23-08, 03:22 PM
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I have done it at the bank on the way out of a ride and deposited a check through the drive through. Definitely weird looks and people won't pull in behind me they all line up 5 cars in the other drive through lane. No one complained though.
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As a general rule, people at drive-throughs are dumb.
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Old 04-23-08, 03:24 PM
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Unfortunately, some people harbor a deep resentment for those who live a healthy lifestyle. Aren't you glad you're you and not him?
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Old 04-23-08, 03:25 PM
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Tell him his fat ass is not good for his safety; makes it hard for him to run when you're kicking him in the face.
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Old 04-23-08, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by crydee View Post
I have done it at the bank on the way out of a ride and deposited a check through the drive through. Definitely weird looks and people won't pull in behind me they all line up 5 cars in the other drive through lane. No one complained though.
Never did that but it's not like I slowed anyone down. Sign here, pay, take package. I really need my 2,000 lb car to transport 90 pills? Made me feel like a wierd-o.
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post the pharmacy's name and phone number so we can all say hi.
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Old 04-23-08, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sprocket Man View Post
Unfortunately, some people harbor a deep resentment for those who live a healthy lifestyle. Aren't you glad you're you and not him?
Well sure I'm glad Im not.
I could see it happening a burger joint, but it really cought my off gaurd.
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My bank told me this at the drive through once. I rode around to the lobby entrance and walked my bike to the teller counter, dripping sweat everywhere. Laid gloves, helmet etc. up there and did my business and left. Would do the same thing at the grocery store.
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Old 04-23-08, 03:32 PM
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I don't think you over-reacted at all. I will not patronize any local business who won't allow me to bring in my bicycle. I had the same experience where my former local pharmacy got on me for leaning my bike against the window next to the door by the counter so I could keep an eye on it, that is why they are my former pharmacy. I ride 2 miles out of towm to go to another one that lets me bring my bike in. I think it is a good idea to try to make businesses be more bike friendly.

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Originally Posted by ravenmore View Post
post the pharmacy's name and phone number so we can all say hi.
I like that idea. I think the best part was going through a fast food drive through back in high school. It was busy inside after I locked up my bike so I tried walking through the empty drive through. I was refused service (safety, I could jump in the window or something) walking so I unlocked my bike and rode through the drive through. The person at the window started asking around to see if they were allowed to serve me this time when I pointed out that I was a legal vehicle. At that point they finally took my money. I got the same thing at the food pick up window where pointing out that they already had my money was enough to get me my food.
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Lots of times the window guy says there's a policy not to serve bikes - most of the time they're lying.

https://www.bikealameda.org/cgi-bin/b...ikealameda.cgi
I rode my bike to the window at the Webster St. Walgreens and was told that they had adopted a new policy of not allowing bikes and peds at these outside windows. Dismayed by this, I went home and wrote to Walgreens to ask them about this new policy. An assistant manager at Walgreens called me to let me know that they definitely DO NOT have any such policy and bicyclists and peds are welcomed to use this service.


https://www.bikemaine.org/ld1808_about.htm

8. Liability Waiver to allow Bicyclists at Drive-up Windows

Bicyclists are occasionally refused service at drive-up windows. Many drive-up windows have longer open hours than lobbies, while some businesses only have a drive-up window. The new law extends a liability waiver to all businesses with drive-up windows to allow bicyclists equal access to businesses including banks, restaurants, pharmacies, ATMs, etc. (14 MRSA §159-D)
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Old 04-23-08, 03:45 PM
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A secret, evil part of me hopes that we never find a solution to the oil/energy crisis and everyone in America is forced to ride bikes. God, that would be great. Think of how much fun the highways and off-ramps would be...
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I was refused service at a Taco Bell drive thru long ago because I was on a bike. The irony is that Lemond was endorsing Taco Bell at the time.
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I got that at a drive through once (and one I had been at several times before without any issues). I was waiting in a long line of cars, just minding my own business. THe manager came out and told me I couldn't use the drive-through. I argued with him for a bit, even said it would be more dangerous for me to try to squeeze out through the cars then to just finish going through but he wouldn't budge. So I squeezed past, and rode around the building and into the store (literally rode into it) and up to the counter. Only consolation was that I got through the line faster. Only one other time has any place told me to take my bike outside (well twice, but one let me put it on an enclosed patio). I generally won't ever go back to places that give me a hard time.
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Originally Posted by KidTruth View Post
A secret, evil part of me hopes that we never find a solution to the oil/energy crisis and everyone in America is forced to ride bikes. God, that would be great. Think of how much fun the highways and off-ramps would be...
+1, but not as secret...
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I got that at a drive through once (and one I had been at several times before without any issues). I was waiting in a long line of cars, just minding my own business. THe manager came out and told me I couldn't use the drive-through. I argued with him for a bit, even said it would be more dangerous for me to try to squeeze out through the cars then to just finish going through but he wouldn't budge. So I squeezed past, and rode around the building and into the store (literally rode into it) and up to the counter. Only consolation was that I got through the line faster. Only one other time has any place told me to take my bike outside (well twice, but one let me put it on an enclosed patio). I generally won't ever go back to places that give me a hard time.
I may actually have to stop at a Taco Bell on the way home just to do this.

And +1 on everyone riding bikes. Expressways would be freaking awesome if everyone was on a bicycle unless they had stupid 10 mph speed limits.
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Most fast food drive thrus have a policy against bicycles and walk-ups because they are harder to see and are sometimes hit by cars who don't notice them around the blind corners and such. Not that I think they care about your safety, but it might be a liability issue.

Personally, I think the US and lawyers are turning this nation into the type that prtotects idiots. There should be no laws for helmets, seatbelts, drive thrus, etc. Just let Darwin sort them out.
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Originally Posted by KidTruth View Post
A secret, evil part of me hopes that we never find a solution to the oil/energy crisis and everyone in America is forced to ride bikes. God, that would be great. Think of how much fun the highways and off-ramps would be...
+2, seconding UMD's +1
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This topic is old hat over on the commuting forum where many posters ride bikes everywhere they go. Although it is hotly debated, the general consensus is

1) that a business has a right to refuse service to anyone
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2) that people who work at drive throughs are not working there because NASA was not hiring that day. They are generally too stupid to think outside the box in any way.
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I just called the store and talked to the general manager; told him what was said. He said he knew of no
restriction to bicycles using the drive through and he had no problem with it. He said he was going to talk to them about it. I told him how I felt the rights the state gave bicycles being equal to cars was not being respected once we got on their property.
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Ask the manager next time to call the police department for you and have an officer arrive to explain to the dorks that a bicycle has every legal right of a motor vehicle on a public road, including non-discriminatory service at some crappy fast food joint.
Then start asking for the full names of the window kids, and the manager, and start writing them down on a pad or post-it. Inform them the names are for your Attourney, for the law suit you'll be pressing against both the store, and the individuals. Explain to them that you look forward to getting service on your new Cervelo they'll be paying for.
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^ Sounds like you should try it again some time and see if they actually listen to their manager. Make sure you know the manager's name if they give you flack again.

As to the state rights, the problem is private property doesn't operate on state traffic laws. Calling an officer would only show that they have a right to implement such policies on said property.
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Originally Posted by Sawtooth View Post
This topic is old hat over on the commuting forum where many posters ride bikes everywhere they go. Although it is hotly debated, the general consensus is

1) that a business has a right to refuse service to anyone
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2) that people who work at drive throughs are not working there because NASA was not hiring that day. They are generally too stupid to think outside the box in any way.
A business has a right to refuse service to anyone (they may be sued if discriminating against a protected class e.g. based on sex, race, disability, etc.). And of course, a customer has the right to do business elsewhere. I've found that in general (not related to bikes), most business don't care if they lose customers. The managers are usually just drones that can't or won't think for themselves and aren't invested in the success of the business. Owner-operated business are of course ocasionally the exception.
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Originally Posted by GlassWolf View Post
Ask the manager next time to call the police department for you and have an officer arrive to explain to the dorks that a bicycle has every legal right of a motor vehicle on a public road, including non-discriminatory service at some crappy fast food joint.
Then start asking for the full names of the window kids, and the manager, and start writing them down on a pad or post-it. Inform them the names are for your Attourney, for the law suit you'll be pressing against both the store, and the individuals. Explain to them that you look forward to getting service on your new Cervelo they'll be paying for.
That just doesn't make any sense
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