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So you want really cool wheels?

Old 04-24-08, 09:04 AM
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So you want really cool wheels?

https://www.competitivecyclist.com/ro...LSE_NONAV.html
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Old 04-24-08, 09:06 AM
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IIRC there have been some passionate threads in C&V on the value of tying and soldering. Perhaps our resident wheel guru Waterrockets will weigh in.
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So what happens when you break a spoke?
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They're nice if you need to race with a broken spoke, or if you just want that team spec'd look for your ride., but for my part they add a level of stiffness that is undesireable....

i have also seen spokes break at the soldered joint, so there's that.
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my wheels feel so impotent, now. It's like Rivendell guy and Bike Snob vulcan mind melded on that write-up.

here's my next wheel:
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Old 04-24-08, 09:16 AM
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https://www.roadbikerider.com/TandS.htm
sounds like a alternative method than running DB spokes 2.0/1.8/2.0 DS and 2.0/1.5/2.0 NDS
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Those look like nicely built wheels. I've never tied and soldered, but I believe the claims that it makes the wheel stiffer and a bit more durable. It really does look cool too.

Nice hand-crafted touch. I should try it sometime. It's kind of like my hand-cut dovetails I've done on drawers. It's nice to see the craftsmanship
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Originally Posted by bdcheung View Post
So what happens when you break a spoke?
That's one of the advantages of T&S, is that it holds a spoke in blace even when it breaks. I have ridden T&S track wheels and personally didn't notice any difference in stiffness, but that doesn't mean it's not there.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight View Post
That's one of the advantages of T&S, is that it holds a spoke in blace even when it breaks. I have ridden T&S track wheels and personally didn't notice any difference in stiffness, but that doesn't mean it's not there.
velodrome racing is the ideal application for tied and soldered wheels. the increased lateral stiffness helps on the banks.
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^ I'm sure it does, but if there is an advantage, it wasn't enough to be noticed by feel or by recorded times.
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I thought this method went out the window with high spoke count wheels. At any rate, $650? My Record/OP wheels (poorly built) from Performance were $250 delivered. I could have two sets with tires.
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I have soldered wheels on my mountain bike. They came with the bike I bought used, so I know nothing about it. They're Bontrager wheels with 28 spokes. I'm a big guy, and I haven't had to true them in some time. I like them.
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Nice, but wrong rims.
They should have used these:
https://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...ikes3/IMG_0075
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Old 04-24-08, 07:11 PM
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Stupidly overpriced and overhyped as is pretty much everything they sell.
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Neuvation M28 Aero 2 with ceramic bearings x 2 for that price.
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overpriced and overhyped perhaps, but they scream belgian hardman euro coolness to me.
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Old 04-24-08, 09:23 PM
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I'd really love a set of zipps...without logos and bling
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Might look nice with this $11,000 frame now on scambay. https://cgi.ebay.com/07-Look-585-Pro-...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old 04-24-08, 09:43 PM
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that's gotta be a mistake, i actually bought my old LOOK from them. i'm guessing it should be 1847$.
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Over priced and heavy.
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