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Old 04-29-08, 11:24 AM
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Italian bikes for heavy riders

I once saw (I think on BF) that Italian bikes and/or Campagnolo stuff isn't good for heavy rider (eg 220lbs).

That can't be true surely? I'm just imagining it right?

Only thng I can think of is Campy hoods are small for those with larger hands.
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Way overbroad generalization. You have to llok at the specific item you're talking about.

The only thing I think you might me thinking of is way back in the day high end Italian steel frames were made of Columbus SL tubing. A bigger rider would want likely want SP tubing instead of SL.

So you may have heard people say that a particular italian frame (made of SL or SLX tubing) wasn't good for a big guy.
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Face it, There are people in the cycling world that think anyone over 160 lbs should be riding 36 spoke wheels and reinforced 4130 steel frames. I highly doubt you will have any problem with any modern Campy components. As for Italian frames, there are a few that have weight restrictions. Colnago Master Light comes to mind.
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Originally Posted by mustang1
I once saw (I think on BF) that Italian bikes and/or Campagnolo stuff isn't good for heavy rider (eg 220lbs).

That can't be true surely? I'm just imagining it right?

Only thng I can think of is Campy hoods are small for those with larger hands.
You're imagining it.

And, there are plenty of 160lb professionals who put a hell of a lot more stress on those components than most 220lb guys ever will.
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i have a pegoretti big leg emma with record. it is so stiff a 400 lb guy could not flex it. im 200 right and it rides fine including when i weighed 220

i have also owned 2 steel tommasinis that were no problem as well. they have fairly thin walled tubing to boot
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Campagnolo says that if you're over 82k/180 lb you should inspect your bicycle for wear, cracks, etc. more often (possibly a disclaimer against legal issues only).
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Originally Posted by jimbud
Face it, There are people in the cycling world that think anyone over 160 lbs should be riding 36 spoke wheels and reinforced 4130 steel frames. I highly doubt you will have any problem with any modern Campy components. As for Italian frames, there are a few that have weight restrictions. Colnago Master Light comes to mind.
Haha, this is VERY true. Come to think of it, most of the young guys in my peer group are all 200lbs or more, and they're all fit. I consider the 150-160lb rider the exception not the rule.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Way overbroad generalization. You have to llok at the specific item you're talking about.

The only thing I think you might me thinking of is way back in the day high end Italian steel frames were made of Columbus SL tubing. A bigger rider would want likely want SP tubing instead of SL.

So you may have heard people say that a particular italian frame (made of SL or SLX tubing) wasn't good for a big guy.
My old Bianchi with SLX tubes held up under my fat butt just fine.
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Originally Posted by Talewinds
Haha, this is VERY true. Come to think of it, most of the young guys in my peer group are all 200lbs or more, and they're all fit. I consider the 150-160lb rider the exception not the rule.

Not in BF where the Average 5'11 is 155
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i ride a 58cm columbus steel Torelli. i'm 6' 200lbs. no issues at all.
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
You're imagining it.

And, there are plenty of 160lb professionals who put a hell of a lot more stress on those components than most 220lb guys ever will.
There are a few pros who can put out huge watts during a sprint, but I think a strong rec rider at 220 pounds puts stresses on a frame, too. Don't forget, a top pro can get a new frame whenever he needs one, or if there is any doubt about one, where a rec rider/racer will use the same frame for 25-40,000 miles under all conditions.
I have broken 4 frames, and I know other bigger guys, (and some smaller guys), who have also broken frames.
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I went from 220lbs at the start of last year to 200 lbs at the start of this year on a Wilier Cento with Record and Eurus wheels. It held up just fine, no issues with the weight at all.
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would you like cheese on that?

americans cover everything in processed cheese- that's bad for italian frames and components.
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Originally Posted by redmist
americans cover everything in processed cheese- that's bad for italian frames and components.
Huh?

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I have a Pinarello Aluminum and a Pinarello steel, both with Campy components and wheels. They held up just fine when I was 280 and are doing fine now that I'm 245 and dropping.
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Originally Posted by jimbud
Face it, There are people in the cycling world that think anyone over 160 lbs should be riding 36 spoke wheels and reinforced 4130 steel frames. I highly doubt you will have any problem with any modern Campy components. As for Italian frames, there are a few that have weight restrictions. Colnago Master Light comes to mind.


Originally Posted by Talewinds
Haha, this is VERY true. Come to think of it, most of the young guys in my peer group are all 200lbs or more, and they're all fit. I consider the 150-160lb rider the exception not the rule.


Originally Posted by logdrum
Not in BF where the Average 5'11 is 155

BS, Not sure where you're getting numbers from but I think you're way off.
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Originally Posted by jimbud

Not in BF where the Average 5'11 is 155




BS, Not sure where you're getting numbers from but I think you're way off.

It's called sarcasm. BTW If you go BMI -- a 5'7 person is already overweight at 158 lbs. And you need to be what to be median fit -- 135
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Originally Posted by logdrum
It's called sarcasm. BTW If you go BMI -- a 5'7 person is already overweight at 158 lbs. And you need to be what to be median fit -- 135
Your preaching to choir here brother. 5'11, 185lbs. I'm close to being obese.
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